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John,
I'm afraid you will find that a lot of the "recruiters" today are not professionals in the field they are recruiting for (not all, but most). Most of them (especially the new ones) have shifted from selling homes (which went south a few years ago) to that most lucrative recruiting gig. I truly believe that they feel it can't be that hard. They seem to have no clue how the industry works or what the words mean. I've had to educate a few, and it is very frustrating. Not like the good old days when the recruiters were true professionals that knew the business, not someone just trying to move bodies, hoping one sticks.
John Julian
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Why should I contribute to a company who off-shored their recruiting jobs?
Considering it is HR that goes around handing out pink slips, I would be happy to see a portion of HR activity outsourced and the HR critters themselves handed pink slips.![Rose | [Rose]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/rose.gif)
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Sadly, to say, HR is only the messenger of the bad news. The 'firing" manager is to blame. That person can make the decision, but cannot carry it out directly. They sit smugly in their office with the door closed as the employee receives the news and cleans out his desk. But, when you're the manager, that is one of the perks. Kind of like the Mafia. The boss gives the orders, but does not perform the execution.
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An advisor at the local unemployment office told me that most contacts you get from headhunters are not for a job they actually have. They are just looking to add you to their database so their searches can match you to a future job more efficiently (for them). I've found this to be mostly true.
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They're called senior recruiters because they recruit people who are so much more senior than they.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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awwwwwww you're getting soft in your old age!!
"mostly watching the human race is like watching dogs watch tv ... they see the pictures move but the meaning escapes them"
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: loosing ... most US kids nowadays cant speak the language either
Or write it.
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Thank God, I wasn't the only one who saw that. 
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Hey, ease up - he was obviously distressed when writing 
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: Or write it.
Cute! I noticed the misspelling, but missed the conjunction with a separate thought.
Hmmm, loosing my mind. Yep, a misspelling spell-checker still misses.
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You can loose your bowels, but don't loose your mind.
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Actually, losing your mind wouldn't be a good choice. With the first choice, I thought "diarrhea", which doesn't seem pleasant either, then realized that normally it really is your choice to do so.
On the other hand, I kind of like letting my mind wander at times which means loosening the reins on my mind, so, in fact, I do let it loose. I lose my temper too often, short term memory too, but don't want to lose my mind at any time.
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We got a job opening in Newstead, nice country town 250 south of Brisbane.
Your resume looks great, please apply online if interested!
Alternatively, you can get free McMeal ticket for every successful applicant you can recommend!
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There are those who are almost human and are capable of contributing to society,
through to those who are nothing but blood sucking leeches except for the fact that blood sucking leeches have a distinct medical purpose and the bottom end of 'Recruiters' don't.
I have had recruiters try to stitch me and their client up at the same time. But I've also had one guy who discreetly explained to me why I didn't get the job (my surname didn't sound Indian enough - I kid you not) much to his professional embarrassment, and then when out of his way to find me something much better.
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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30 years of Microsoft? Don't you feel like doing something else for a change? It wasn't until I got off my butt and started doing things with Linux and general software(as opposed to purely scientific) that I got interest.
I had to take a 5 k paycut one year, but the job was the most fun I'd had in years; the following year I got a 10k rise.
Now I do everything from automated Linux OS builds to ATL, and it is a lot of fun.
Oh, and I travelled 100 miles to get the job.
Venting may be fun, but realistic, even helpful, it isn't.
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I, on the other hand, tried linux and can't stand that thing. I found it too raw, too much configuration and concepts that I just don't like (fork/exec for example)
I'm Brazilian; English and other human languages in general aren't my best skills so I apologise for my less than perfect English...
"Given the chance I'd rather work smart than work hard." - PHS241
"'Sophisticated platform' typically means 'I have no idea how it works.'"
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It certainly does take time, it can be alien after windows.
I don't really use windows at home anymore. Linux is faster, safer, cheaper and I like it.
Trouble is it makes me very impatient and dissatisfied with windows at work.
15 minute boot time? And they charge money for that? Forget about it.
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You must be using windows XP, my desktop here at work takes 5 seconds to boot, and my notebook at home takes 15 seconds.
I did had a machine at work that took that long, but it was a 4gb ram, dual core WinXP (later Win7, but that only increased boot time).
About being safer, the first thing that my OS professor thaught us was how to break unix passwords.
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I'm Brazilian; English and other human languages in general aren't my best skills so I apologise for my less than perfect English...
"Given the chance I'd rather work smart than work hard." - PHS241
"'Sophisticated platform' typically means 'I have no idea how it works.'"
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You mean running John The Ripper on conveniently 'obtained' files? With huge, custom wordlists, of course, as you're a professional. And this is after you've penetrated the root directory via the router, through both firewalls?
I ran a simple English word through a cracker for two weeks and it wasn't cracked, even though I had access to the files.
And while we're at it, how do you boot into a windows drive if the OS breaks?
Answers on a 2GB stick please. 
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No, i mean loading the shell and editing passwords on hand. I was surprised that trick actually worked on the servers of my previous employee.
And i boot on the windows drive using nothing more than the built in tools, that are alread on the drive.
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Editing by hand? I'm assuming there was no encryption? I've never heard of this. As for windows tools, that's great as long as you don't mind losing 15-20G on restore partitions.
I've used both.
I prefer Linux.
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The passwd system file isn't encripted, only the password field. Does not take that much more effort to create a dummy user and copy it's password over the root, at least not on the debian distro we were using.
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Sentenryu wrote: Does not take that much more effort to create a dummy user and copy it's
password over the root, at least not on the debian distro we were using.
Creating a new account? Editing the (shadow) password file? Well, yeah, when you're root, its trivial to get root 
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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The trick was based on appending /init=sh on the bootloader config, or something like that, i don't remember (alread more than a year since i did it last time), i don't remember how to get elevation once in the shell
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probably "init=single" -- boot system into single user mode with a shell running as root. That's why they repeatedly say, if the bad guy has physical access to the machine, its not secure
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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