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Quote: You NEED to get the users involved BEFORE you start coding the new system. Give them the idea that they are in control,
They just might have ideas on improving the system -- frequently the decision-makers (a.k.a. their bosses) have no clue about any of the current work flow impediments, or the work-arounds that are just part of what the users "have to do" to get their old system to support their work.
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Terrible thing, but...
I discovered this interwonenness (is that a word at all?) about 35 years ago.
There is no way to tell users to change their habits from a programming chair and all sorts of less palatable motives might be involved (only at the userside, of course...).
You need to (re)formalize a (set of) workflows before you can expect acceptance, because even if there is no spontaneous acceptance, you can now enforce it.
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I once had a manger put a 6 inch thick binder of my desk.
It was the code and documentation for a system I was supposed to replace.
I went straight to the users and asked them what they needed.
The program was a success.
I never did open that binder.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: The ticket has been reopened as "the user doesn't want to change their workflow"...
In my experience, you should always question the "game of telephone" between yourself and 'the user'".
In an organization of even a meager size, especially if there are multiple "support groups" in "multiple organizations" between the end user and the "developer/product designer", then both ends have a good chance of getting bad information. The end user and the developer/designer typically understand the nitty gritty details of the job, issues, and potential solutions and everyone else has a skin deep understanding. That lack of in depth knowledge causes the links in the telephone chain to miscommunication information and insert their own ignorant perspective to "help" the situation along having no idea the damage they are causing. Then again, your project is just one of 10 those "helpers" with skin deep knowledge are probably handling and can't justify the time to get the in depth knowledge you can.
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Today's brilliant code/design is tomorrow's bad design.
They don't pay you because it's fun, they pay you to get it done their way. 
Get over it. 
Wear a mask. the life you save may be your own.
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Pig and zebra make tangles with uniforms (9)
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I can not do the CCC Monday, but surely this one can not go unanswered? Get your answer in, don't be late!
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I can not do the CC today, let alone Monday ... the best I can come up with is UNGULATES, and that only fits the start!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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On second thoughts, maybe I do ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Pig and zebra
make (Anag)
tangles NG LATES
with uniforms U U
UNGULATES
Why "U" is "Uniform" I have no idea...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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That's what I got, so I do hope it is right 
U is Uniform in the NATO Phonetic Alphabet.
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Phonetic alphabet ?
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Correct on all counts! I knew I could depend on you...
What I learnt (in checking for this clue) is that there are marine ungulates too, including dolphins... but I thought using a dolphin as an example of a hoofed mammal would be just a tad too confusing!! 
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I didn't know that either, but I guess it makes sense: they evolved from some hoofed creature even if they don't have the defining characteristic any more.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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It's finally dawned on me this afternoon that I should have simplified this to
Two ewes in tangles
But would you have got it from that?
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Ewes would then do double duty (definition and something to decode as part of an anagram), but I like it.
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She asked me: "What's this?"
I said: "It's a tree."
"Really?"
"In a nutshell, yeah."
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Sounds like a rather seedy reply that you gave the young sprout.
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Is that just a sapling of your sense of humor?
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What could be the value of input such that below query fails?
SELECT * FROM test WHERE id= 100
PS: You cannot put * in the value anywhere.
modified 11-Mar-21 15:08pm.
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PS: You cannot put * in the value anywhere.
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...but is not for programming questions
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Yup. I ignore the CCC myself but many others appear to enjoy it. I don't think it counts as a programming question.
I just realized your question might be a quiz type question. In which case the answer might be \0D --.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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