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I think you should always make the decision before you code: Is it one-way disposable code or is it production-level clean code. The latter can take up to twice as much time, so you should decide carefully. So when you decide to use throw-away code in production, you *have* to invest some more time to make it nice and neat. At least that's the way I do it.
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I lived there[^] - or as I call it, my Eleven Year Sentence.
All those jokes - like what has 500 legs and 12 teeth? Two Hundred Fifty West Virginians - well, they're true. "Deliverance", light. Hunting, Guns, Canning - that's pretty much it.
And, from my own observations: If someone ever tells you to "stick something where the sun don't shine" - just ship it to WV.
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IMHO, a post like this has no place in the Lounge. It serves no constructive purpose at all.
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Slacker007 wrote: It serves no constructive purpose at all
SO ?For that matter, as an ironic note, you reply servers no constructive purpose, either.
Perhaps,
IF in your vast experiences, you can add your views of your time spent there?
ELSE, that old saying can well be said: "Physician, heal thyself!"
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Sometimes, I think you miss the Soapbox so much, that you poop on the floor here just to see who complains about the smell.
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It's almost always me that complains. I am probably his only audience member. 
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I never say anything But Slacker I think you are correct.
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Or, perhaps to catch flies? Perhaps this will make you happy ? 💩 Now - settle down & relax!.
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Slacker007 wrote: IMHO, a post like this has no place in the Lounge. It serves no constructive purpose at all.
And posts in the lounge usually are? 
Well, I certainly found it interesting, and it certainly applies to people who work in this field as many of us can (and currently are) working remotely, so not really sure what you're upset about.
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You from WV?
It doesn't say in the notes we have to be constructive. Where did you get the idiot idea that we need be? This the Lounge.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote: West Virginia
Never been there but I'll bet it is beautiful. If I hadn't of just bought a new home recently I might consider their offer.
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Things could have changed since my escape, - but beautiful scenery? You might be driving on a road (no shoulders, by the way, but literally ditches and they can be big). Well, you see some trees, but if you stop moving and look through them you may see a strip-mine behind it.
As far as awesome forest beauty goes, upstate NY, or Vermont, or New Hampshire, or, well, a ton of places have similar but really beautiful landscape. Lot's of hils - bicycler's nightmare. I lived on a 30 degree grade (yes, 30 degrees).
Now state law says strip mine lands must be reclaimed when the mine is closed - so what they do is park a vehicle in this HUGE gouge in the earth and say they're still working it. Meanwhile, the underground mines have rules, too, about ceiling support to prevent subsidence (i.e., a sudden giant sinkhole). But only the miners are down there to know what's done and they know who signs their check.
State laws:
You have no mineral rights to your land - that means someone could be mining under you that bought those rights.
You can not sue for damage due to subsidence. Basically, tough sh*t.
That's because two things rule this state: coal mining and hunting. In the case of the latter, I lived right next to what (no longer is) forest land. The only squirrels I saw were in the form of strings of tails on car arials (they had those back then, in the 90's). Interfere with a hunter and you'll go to jail. Hunter trespasses on your land? Maybe a slap on the wrist. You county may also shut it's schools for dear hunting season.
All this, mind you, and I lived in a university town (WVU) with a grad school, med school, etc.). An early mentor, when I first moved there, was shot at for driving in the country side.
Low crime, too: a woman found dead in front of her trailer. Gunshot wound to the head. No guns nearby. Not ruled a homicide - hence, no crime. And you remember Zimmerman, in Florida, murdering that kid using the "stand your ground" laws? Well there was a garage mechanic in town (Morgantown) with three "notches on his gun". It goes on and on.
Something I figured out quite some time ago - places with cheap housing? Maybe it's because no one wants to live there !
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Wow that's outrageous
"I didn't mention the bats - he'd see them soon enough" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Read the other reply to your post so I suppose mileage will vary.
I drove through there with my wife on our honeymoon, and the part we went though was very beautiful indeed. But that was kind of the point with the trip.
Anyway, we were in the Smokey Mountains on the fourth of July, and I have to admit that we could check quite a few boxes on our prejudice list. 
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Well - like I said - sometimes when you look behind a few rows of trees you can hardly gasp at such ruin.
Driving through - makes me think of when I interviewed for the job: the director of the facility had to postpone his from with-lunch chat to late in the day. That was because his daughter drove into where civilized places have shoulders on the road - but here, ditches. It's so common they even have an expression for it: "Ditch-Diving". I only went off, once, sliding down backward from a hill on snow. Any snow on those hilly roads is insanely dangerous. On the other hand, since the ditches could be huge, my kids and their friends use to play across our road in one with a nice stream of runoff (clay soil: no absorption - just runoff). Building little moats and waterfalls.
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Quote: The initiative is being made possible after a $25 million donation from Intuit's executive chairman
Oh God No! Dealt with them last week. My dad has some businesses on QuickBooks. Had logon problems trying to access them. Help said they needed another $550 to 'fix the problem,' because their automatic backup system is sh*t, and totally screwed up their cloud files, which was making it so I couldn't login. "47% file corruption - at 50% you will not be able to open the files!" They were saying it is my dad's fault for leaving the program running overnight. Don't know if that is true or not.
Regardless, you can imagine how pissed I was. But told them I would get back with them. Looked into it more, and the local files didn't give any errors when checking with their tool. My pissed level rose an order of magnitude. Thankfully, I did give the guy an earful on the phone about them having crappy programming if they can't even make certain files don't get corrupted.
So now West Virginia also falls into this crappy association. Thanks!
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If you buy a simian, does it come with a monkey-back guarantee?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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That statement gives me paws: I didn't hear about it or see any information, so I'll not speak to it.
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What kind of monkey-business is this?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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I thought you'd go ape ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Are you trying to make a monkey out of me?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Apesolutely!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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You two have gone bananas!
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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