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Bought a new computer Tuesday!
In fact I am super happy with my acquisition, spent 1 hour scrutinizing Officeworks website.. Ordered online, go it today, sweet!
The beats is sleek, and slim, and fast (for its purpose)! nice!
However, it comes with plenty of pre-installed uselessware, like antivirus. So I presto remove them (antivirus only cause me grief and never did any good) but I got struck by a vague remorse, could it be that today's antivirus are ok?
I.e. they don't spend time vampirising all your machine performance...
It was McAfee Live Safe that I just removed.
What say you?
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I'm using the free Avast antivirus software and it works fine. There were some complaints that it gathers user data, but you can turn that off in the settings.
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AV-TEST | Antivirus & Security Software & AntiMalware Reviews[^]
You usually are happy with your choice unless something really strange happens on your computer, you install another one and that one tells you had a virus...
Those guys are an independent laboratory that stress all anti-virus softwares to check which one works well and which one don't.
Hope this helps.
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Ha... Another compounding factor to my decision! Windows Defender is a top 10 !
Thanks for the link
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I've been using the built in Windows AV since Windows 10 and have yet to have an issue. 
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I've used BitDefender for a few years now without any issues (except nagging reminders that my WiFi is "unsafe" if I don't use their (not great by all accounts) VPN).
Just NEVER accept the "special offer" to renew for next year. Leave it until a day or two before and that special offer is likely to be improved considerably (or just buy a licence online).
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Super Lloyd wrote: It was McAfee ...
Nuke it from orbit, and never look back.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I'm using Kaspersky, so far it's the easiest on the CPU and does not break compatibility with old games or software. Also it's completely local, as opposed to Sophos that went cloud and now is configurable only through an Internet connection, is a cpu hog and will make some software fail silently without any possibility of excluding them.
NortNot and McCoughee are laughable, BitDefender came highly recommened and it basically killed two computers that I own so I avoid it, Avast and AVG became worse than the threats they supposedly protect from.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Kaspersky here as well.
Only one problem with it so far - it turned on banner reject in Chrome without asking and the CP ads disappeared. I had to find it and whitelist CP to get them back.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Windows defender, that's builtin is good enough and also quite unintrusive.
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I've read various reviews to that effect, so I stopped paying for one. But I have to run periodic scans myself. Not that it should find anything if it's doing its job properly in the first place, but you never know. I haven't noticed a way to schedule this automatically but am probably missing something.
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You have to use Task Scheduler - Windows Defender doesn't have any shortcuts to make it easy
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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That link gives me a useless page, but I found this one[^].
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Yes, there is that too!
Thanks for reminder!
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I used to use it years ago, but it always did a full scan on my system every afternoon - despite being told not to. Since this slugged the computer horribly, I moved to Kaspersky instead.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Windows Defender has a bad rap from the Windows 7 days where it was a piece of hot garbage.
You know - The days when AVG was still downloaded from free.grisoft.com and was actually good? Yea - Those days.
Windows 10 Defender is actually great. It's slowly gaining in popularity since people are realizing how bloatwared other modern AV's are, and the definitions are constantly updated.
-= Reelix =-
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Windows 10's built in Windows Defender is sufficient for most heathens. it will be active by default if no other av is installed. It's also out of your way.
McAfee is neither live nor safe. I just cleaned so much crap from a customer's live safe'ed windows 10 machine using the usual tech tools. It was so infected they're Open Office would not.... open.
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Whenever I buy a new computer for myself or a family member, the first thing I do is to do a clean install of Windows. This is a surefire way to get rid of the cr@pware that comes with the new machine. Then I rely on Defender only for virus protection.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
modified 15-Apr-21 11:55am.
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Agreed. Some of the "anti-virus" tools are like a rootkit -- almost impossible to remove unless nuking from orbit.
I'm using Windows Defender and MalwareBytes.
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Agree 100%. Fresh install of Windows.
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Smart move. Windows Defender is a better AV.
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I have long since uninstalled and deactivated all antivirus software on all my PCs.
In 20 years of using antivirus software, the only threats it has reported to me are suspicious emails that I had identified as such and already thrown away. And also a plethora of popups, all as arrogant as useless.
Please tell us: Has your antivirus ever reported a threat in the past that was really a threat?
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I promptly uninstalled McAffee.. and I didnt install any alternative. I too generally think that anti virus are a waste of... everything really.. And was looking for possible reason toe change my mind...
But as other reminded me, Windows Defender is an anti virus and it does as good a job as any other. So AV are really not needed!
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