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I am old. My glass isn't big enough.
>64
Some days the dragon wins. Suck it up.
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Me too. Sometimes I can't find the glass.
ed
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I had the opposite problem trying to put a short date in Libre Office Calc (spreadsheet). A column with no special formatting, I'm used to typing d/m and letting it turn it into dd/mm/yy. Took me several goes to get 1 Feb in as 1/02/23. Kept morphing into ½.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Engineer: the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
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Obligatory xkcd (What If): Glass Half Empty
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Wordle 602 4/6
⬜⬜⬜🟨🟨
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
🟨🟨⬜⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Should be good for some smart comments....
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Wordle 602 3/6
⬛⬛⬛⬛🟨
🟨⬛🟨🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
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⬜⬜⬜⬜🟨
🟨🟨⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
very lucky guess.
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Wordle 602 4/6
⬛⬛⬛⬛🟨
⬛⬛🟨⬛⬛
🟨🟩⬛⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Being part of this community, should have got it sooner :P
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Wordle 602 4/6*
⬜⬜⬜⬜🟨
🟨⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜🟨🟨
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Oh, I should have got that quicker!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Wordle 602 4/6
⬜⬜⬜🟦⬜
⬜⬜🟦⬜🟦
🟦🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟧🟧🟧🟧🟧
After my 3rd try, I was staring at the screen, thinking Wordle is lying! I was convinced there was no other way those letters could be arranged. And then... 
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Wordle 602 4/6
⬜🟨⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟨⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
I didn't think that would be correct
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It could only be one of two words - you were very unlucky with your third go.
Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming “Wow! What a Ride!" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP
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Wordle 602 4/6
⬛⬛⬛⬛🟨
⬛🟩⬛⬛⬛
⬛🟩⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Wordle 602 4/6
⬜⬜⬜⬜⬜
⬜⬜⬜⬜🟨
🟩🟩⬜⬜⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩
Started poorly but third try gave it away
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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I'm not too proud to say it. I pretty much always start with naive implementations of code while I work out how I really want it to be laid out. If you see "clever" code from me, that was never my first pass at it. There's always been a lot of playing around with it beforehand as I refactor and tidy it up.
We need to get better at telling new coders that this is okay. Or perhaps it's not, and I'm just setting a bad example.
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I am the same way. Do it quick and dirty to prove or disprove the concept and/or algorithm.
Make sure the code has the opportunity to Fail Fast so I don't waste time on it.
Then clean it up, refactor it, add error handling and comments.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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I agree 100%
"How can I know what I mean, before I see what I say?"
It is far easier to edit something that isn't so great than it is to make something up out of thin air.
So, get a little down, then edit.
"Do something, even if it's wrong."
"It is not enough to stare up the steps, we must step up the stairs!"
"Action doesn't guarantee happiness. But, there is no happiness without action!"
I got a million of 'em!
"Sometimes I sits & thinks. But other times I just sits."
modified 10-Feb-23 17:01pm.
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good to see you guy's trick here
diligent hands rule....
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Me too!
It must be experience.
Adding error handling and such can be done after the main logic path has been worked out.
And I often have local variables I can test (e.g. in debug) until I'm sure I don't need them.
I might write:
int c = foo() ;
if ( c == 0 ) ...
before changing it to:
if ( foo() == 0 ) ...
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Strange - I'm different. I generally try to "do it the right way" from scratch, even for one off throwaway jobs for me.
Even when I was checking a prototype PCB (solder on the processor and enough ancillary bits of hardware to make it run and toggle a signal, then add a bit more and test that, ...) the code was "production quality" - if only because I got bitten too many times by throwing code together to see if hardware worked and eventually found it was the software not the hardware I was trying to debug!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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I've learned not to kid myself that the code I just wrote, tested, and checked in can't be improved after looking at it again some time later.
So often I'm driving home from the office (which is a benefit of working in an office) when the, "you idiot, you shoulda done..." monster, strikes. 
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: which is a benefit of working in an office It works just the same way WFH. But in that instance, if it "hits me" 20 minutes after "leaving" work then I'm in the garden, or putting away the washing and I can just pick up the laptop and at minimum write myself a note about my new brilliant idea, if not implement it fully, decide it's complete rubbish and roll everything back. Rather than be doing 70 (or more likely 15) up the motorway only to be distracted by some idiot who thinks "mirror, signal, manoeuvre" is for wimps and forget all about it. The mind never shuts down; just goes into "energy saving" mode...
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YMMV.
I have always* understood the wisdom of getting away from it (whatever it is) and having a fresh eye on it later.
Yet, my experience (during lockdown) was that I just continued to sit at my desk looking at the code until it fixed itself. When the work is at home, getting away from it can be more difficult, in my experience.
* Since art classes in high school anyway.
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I often get my best ideas in the shower. It got so frequent I had one boss tell me the company should pay my water bill.
"They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"
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