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I'm not naming names because this day in age, people get sued and consumers aren't allowed to tell the truth. But, I'm just curious to know, how many CPians have ever used a third party vendor that expected the customer to monitor their uptime to make sure they're compliant with the SLA?
I just heard this for the first time ever today, and well... that's a new one. 
Jeremy Falcon
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While I'm sure all vendors making claims for XYZ uptime are measuring it themselves, I wouldn't necessarily trust them to communicate back to their customers the fact that they perhaps aren't delivering on what they promise.
As such, I'm not entirely surprised vendors would tell their customers to get their own figures. After all, they (the customers) would be the ones making the complaints. And then the vendors can claim they were up, and the problem must've been on the customer's end...
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Oh, I don't trust this vendor to accurately report that at all. But, to expect the customer to track it as opposed to them even bothering to pretend to... is a bit much. That's the point being made.
Jeremy Falcon
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I would expect both sides would need to do it.
After all if a breech of contract occurs then how does the customer initiate it with assurance?
I know one company that does take compliance seriously on their end. They issue non-compliance reports before being asked. It is possible that this is because their clients are much bigger and thus would have many more lawyers. So proactive is probably best. Or maybe they just want to be seen as a better partner.
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No but I did a Power plant using a uVax and BETA software and we helped them debug it.
I left the company not long after and every job we did we got sued because the PM had no idea what he was doing.
I don't think before I open my mouth, I like to be as surprised a everyone else.
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Ya know... I have to laugh... but I also have to cry. This just got all too real and seems all too familiar. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Some years ago I received an email from my internet provider saying that I had exceeded my monthly allowance. I asked them to provide the figures showing what I had used, and they told me I would have to do it myself, as they had no means to do it. I switched soon after that.
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Hi All,
Working on a test rig design long story short a stepper motor is behaving in a true  way. The current draw is all over the place, it will not move! stick a scope probe on the ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://codeproject.global.ssl.fastly.net/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) starts moving take the probe off stops, try pressing down (could be a faulty board) no, try another item, no; go back to scope probe Yes! It can't be RF, probe works grounded or not.  Proper Weird!
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maybe the stepper has an intermittent short in it. sounds faulty in any case. The current draw should be stable under a constant load.
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That was my first thought. Changed motors still does it, changed 4988 driver (could have been a fault) still does it but only with a scope probe, not multimeter or other implement only a scope probe (connected to a scope, not even selected channel, but connected).
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Wow. It almost sounds like maybe your scope is doing something to the signal. Could it be your scope is to blame?
ETA: My Salae was acting really strange one day, and I spent all day debugging because I couldn't figure out why my SPI signal was so off. It's still a mystery as the analyzer hasn't acted up since.
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Don't really think so, a cheapo R&S Pro branded UniT model, about 700mV on the probe...
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Inductor or capacitor - I forget which.
I had a similar problem 20+ years ago: the board was working really weirdly so I stuck a scope on to look at what was happening and ... the problem went away. I talked it over with Tektronix, and (apart from their first suggestion which was "ship a scope with each unit?") they were very helpful. IIRC, it was the scope probe capacitance that was fixing it and adding a couple of pF to the line smoothed it all out and it worked faultlessly from then on (though it may have been a small inductor we needed to add, I can't remember and the H/W designer died a few years ago.)
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I have been thinking that, I just try resoldering the connections to the module. Stupid thing is must be the capacitance as adding other probes or a screw driver doesn't do it (inductive, I think). It happens if I change the motor, the driver board.
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Quote: and the H/W designer died a few years ago.
Sorry, but that cracked me up. Feeling like the Bicentennial Man here: "Oh that guy that designed that system is long gone and the guy that took over is already retired too"
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Ground through the scope? The ring of the probe BNC connector is connected to earth.
I'm skeptical of the tiny (pF) capacitance of a scope probe "fixing" this, though it's not out of the realm of possibility depending on what you're connected to.
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Dave Kreskowiak wrote: Ground through the scope
I would agree.
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Strengthen Aldi - no Tesco struggles! (11)
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Consolidate
Good getting two supermarkets in 
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You are up tomorrow!
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I kept trying to find anagrams that included ALDI but excluded TESCO. After all, the clue clearly stated there was no Tesco. 
It finally dawned on me, Tesco's not out, it's in and I was able to solve it. I liked this one! 
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Damn it, just saw that I am longer member at Codeproject than some of my work colleagues are alive.
Does that make me feel old? Nope. Am having fun with that.
How many are members here since 20+ years and still active?
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A mere 16 years 7 months for me 
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14 years here - but it doesn't feel like it at all! Doesn't time fly when you are having fun?
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I will hit 20* years this December. I first discovered CodeProject at work and it certainly helped with many issues that I worked on back then.
*I had been using it for a few years before I created an account.
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