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OriginalGriff2-Oct-23 22:04

OriginalGriff

2-Oct-23 22:04

Nelek wrote:
You can't put nails with scissors and you can't cut a paper with a hammer.

You can if you try really hard.
Herself has used scalpels to open paint tins, side cutters to force screws in, and a lump hammer as a stapler ... Sigh | :sigh:

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trønderen3-Oct-23 8:11

3-Oct-23 8:11

You can do quite some things with a hammer: Pete Seeger: If I Had a Hammer[^]

CPallini2-Oct-23 21:16

CPallini

2-Oct-23 21:16

It is just a mode. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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theoldfool3-Oct-23 2:30

theoldfool

3-Oct-23 2:30

"Statistics are used by rascals to convince fools" Smile | :)

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Ron Anders3-Oct-23 5:00

Ron Anders

3-Oct-23 5:00

And they now site stats without a basis like a graph trending over time for example.
"We said it, believe it, don't think to wonder why.

jschell3-Oct-23 5:47

jschell

3-Oct-23 5:47

Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
Why does no one give averages anymore

Can't ignore the possibility they just do not know the difference.

Especially since they might be pulling from another source and even that source might not know the difference.

trønderen3-Oct-23 7:45

3-Oct-23 7:45

For journalists, that is highly probable.

With one minor comment: In Norwegian, 'average' (or in Norwegian: gjennomsnitt) is the common, everyday term that everyone knows and uses. I'd guess that 80% of common people would not be able to correctly explain what 'median' is. Maybe 'median' is more commonly known in English speaking countries, but my impression is that 'average' is a more common term in English as well. An uninformed journalist would be more likely to use 'average', because that is what he knows and understands.

And then: Maybe he doesn't really understand 'median', but for that very reason he may be using it to make it sound more 'advanced' and impressing. That could very well happen here in Norway!

jmaida3-Oct-23 12:36

jmaida

3-Oct-23 12:36

good words

"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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Jeremy Falcon3-Oct-23 7:48

Jeremy Falcon

3-Oct-23 7:48

Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
I suspect that more and more writers think that median = average.

Jeremy Falcon

trønderen3-Oct-23 8:22

3-Oct-23 8:22

And it is true for a normal distribution!

jmaida3-Oct-23 12:35

jmaida

3-Oct-23 12:35

"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger

trønderen3-Oct-23 13:57

3-Oct-23 13:57

The set of "as simple as possible" solutions frequently has no overlap with the "as complicated as needed" solutions.

That is frequently a result of different people determining the two subsets.

jmaida3-Oct-23 16:43

jmaida

3-Oct-23 16:43

I agree. One might say simplistically
"Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder."
or English or American expression "there is more than one way to skin a cat" (sorry cat lovers).

"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger

modified 3-Oct-23 23:19pm.

trønderen3-Oct-23 8:04

3-Oct-23 8:04

For those of you who can make sense of Swedish, and enjoy standups about statistics: Om sannolikhet (About probability)[^] will give you a good laugh (even with this worn-out-VHS-tape-quality from 1969).

There are so many puns and so much word play that any subtitling to English would be losing a whole lot of it. It looks as if noone has given it a try. Sorry for you non-Swedish speakers.

DerekT-P4-Oct-23 2:03

DerekT-P

4-Oct-23 2:03

I was always taught that "average" is a generic term that can indicate any of mean, median, or mode. The Oxford dictionary definition tends to support that though is even more vague about the meaning of "average". However the Open University[^] seems to agree.

Personally it therefore really winds me up when so-called "academic" papers refer to "average", as it doesn't supply enough information. Maybe in the US "average" has taken on the meaning of "mean", but what term do you then use to encompass mean, median and mode?

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Daniel Pfeffer4-Oct-23 11:49

Daniel Pfeffer

4-Oct-23 11:49

DerekT-P wrote:
but what term do you then use to encompass mean, median and mode?

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StarNamer@work2-Oct-23 15:15

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2-Oct-23 15:15

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Sandeep Mewara2-Oct-23 17:44

Sandeep Mewara

2-Oct-23 17:44

Wordle 836 3/6

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Shane01032-Oct-23 19:02

Shane0103

2-Oct-23 19:02

Wordle 836 5/6

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OriginalGriff2-Oct-23 20:23

OriginalGriff

2-Oct-23 20:23

Wordle 836 2/6*

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GKP19922-Oct-23 20:25

GKP1992

2-Oct-23 20:25

Wordle 836 4/6

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Amarnath S2-Oct-23 20:26

Amarnath S

2-Oct-23 20:26

Wordle 836 5/6

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ChandraRam2-Oct-23 21:14

ChandraRam

2-Oct-23 21:14

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pkfox2-Oct-23 22:01

pkfox

2-Oct-23 22:01

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