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My company gave several people raises last year to bring everyone into line to get rid of this issue. People doing the same job should be paid the same. If some out perform others then a performance based bonus should be the way to differentiate, or the underperformers let go!
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There're problems with doing it that way. Bonuses aren't guaranteed from year to year which makes budgeting based on the assumption that you'll always have on dangerous and lenders are leery of counting them as income for loan approval for the same reasons.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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If nobody know's what anyone else is making, it's hard to establish what your worth is. Most people underestimate what they should be earning for a salary and management likes it that way. If the underlings find out what they're actually worth they start asking for what they're worth, and management doesn't like that. And that's why it's taboo to talk about your salary.
If anything I'd be for more openness in this regard. It makes discrimination (racial, gender or otherwise) much harder to carry out.
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1 more thing, you all should check out GlassDoor[^]
You enter your salary, and in exchange you get access to look at what others are making. Anonymously of course.
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What a great website. Thanks mate.
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I don't recall if there's any official sanctions or not, but you can get rough ideas. The annual review and raise form lists the salary range for your current employment level (eg Minion II) and you can guess where in the range someone is based on how long they've been at the level. Beyond that while I can't see exactly what anyone else is making some of the financial/planning documents for projects list what the company is billing customers for at each level and these numbers are proportional to the salary ranges...
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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At past jobs I had known the salaries of a few people, but it was just general policy to not talk about it. One person might have negotiated for more money or more vacation time when starting, but that is how they did it. Could the other people have done that too? Would all of them have been successful? Probably not.
Steve Maier
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Also should mention that the chaos resulted in two decisions by management:
1- All payment increases until the next year would be halted.
2- Management agreed to pay bonuses each 3 month based on my report on how everybody has been in his/her work.
Behzad
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Behzad Sedighzadeh wrote: 2- Management agreed to pay bonuses each 3 month based on my report on how everybody has been in his/her
My commiserations on that duty.
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I don't care on others salary. I know my own and I am happy with that, whether it is less or more.
I take care of my performance. Salary will always come based on that.
Never thought to discuss with others on salary part. This is totally confidential matter.
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Regards - Kunal Chowdhury | Software Developer | Chennai | India | My Blog | My Tweets | Silverlight Tutorial
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I know exactly how much everybody earns. Mainly because I sign the paychecks. I don't mind people talking about their salaries; as a small business owner, I have to keep things fair so that people don't leave.
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Behzad Sedighzadeh wrote: what is you firm policy on this?
It is confidential data here in my company. I can refuse to disclose without any consequences.
Personally, I do not mind sharing telling my salary if someone asks. But I never ask anyone about his.
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I have a fair idea, since I often construct cost estimates for customers and know what we bill fo employees' time. But I really don't care. If I ever want to know the exact amount, I'll hack the boss's files on the server.
I know I'm being paid far less than I'm worth, but in this area I'm lucky to have a job. Besides, the job is fun! But that's the deal I struck, and I have no reason to complain. If I want more, I can always go elsewhere. A part of being a 'professional' rather than an hourly grunt is that one provides a service in exchange for an agreed rate, and it's a personal agreement that is no one else's business. If another employee made a better deal than I did, good for him!
Will Rogers never met me.
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Never ask a woman about her age.
Never ask a man about his salary.
I don't really want to know what others are earning, because I've much better things to worry about.
There are some really weird people on this planet - MIM.
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There are a lot of dirty cops out there and they have low expenses allowing for narrow margins :p
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Indeed; I thought the right to plunder the evidence room was a standard perk.
L u n a t i c F r i n g e
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Nothing beats the Cops epsidode with the cruiser parked beside a dealer's car, arresting him. Druggie goes to passenger window to make a buy. Cop looks through both cars at the buyer, gets out and busts him on camera.
I need an app that will automatically deliver a new BBBBBBBBaBB (beautiful blonde bimbo brandishing bountiful bobbing bare breasts and bodacious butt) every day.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer
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Usually people use "It's not a rocket science" as term to express not so difficult things. Just wondering what would a Senior Aerospace Engineer use a term to mention that it is a simple thing for his subordinate?
Sucess is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.
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"It's not a rocket science"
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong.
-- Iain Clarke
[My articles]
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naah .. he is already aware what "rocket science" is ..
Sucess is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.
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Sushant Joshi wrote: naah .. he is already aware what "rocket science" is
That's not a valid point, for instance I'm aware about what COM is (well, at least a bit) so I'm well aware it is difficult.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong.
-- Iain Clarke
[My articles]
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Nice 1
Sucess is going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.
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