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Don't you know?
Average developer's Google search engine is arranged to forward the query in the CodeProject Q&A.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
This is going on my arrogant assumptions. You may have a superb reason why I'm completely wrong.
-- Iain Clarke
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You just made me look at Q&A, and sure enough there was a question which quickly got answered with Google and the MSDN. As a bonus I also got the comment from SAmeone to look at his far better answer.
So my default answer in Q&A will from now on not be Google anymore. It will be 'Look at SAmeones answer'. That will spare the poor guy a few 'Look at my Answer' comments. Or perhaps I simply find something else to do.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda
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"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi
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To be fair to SA, he does give some very good answers.
He always asks me to look at his as well...
Real men don't use instructions. They are only the manufacturers opinion on how to put the thing together.
Manfred R. Bihy: "Looks as if OP is learning resistant."
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Sure he does and I know he means well. But why still bother to write an answer when this happens each and every time? Now please don't say rep points. You know that I avoid to start playing that game.
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda
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"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi
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While still, Lazy and "Skill-lessness" are major reasons,
Sometimes the questions asked aren't simple :"The Sun rises in the ____"
It's a problem. And the poster is struck deep in it, and he needs an outsider perspective, a fresh set of eyes.
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Just that something can be done, doesn't mean it should be done. Respect developers and their efforts!
Jk
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I don't think this issue limits itself to people asking questions on CP and this is why from my observations:
I think the issue is to do with the skill of being able to investigate issues in a methodical manner.
Even querying google takes some skill(I know to us on CP this seems inane!) - I have had to train some people in how to word a google search in order to find what they are looking for.
Many times I have found that people try to out-think an issue so instead of asking "why is the sky blue" they will ask "what are the chemical constituents in an oxygen rich atmosphere that cause the colour blue to predominate when light is passed through this atmosphere".
So I think it comes down to basic problem solving skills - which in the end is the basis for making a good developer/programmer.
But to answer your question directly I don't think that a google acronym has been invented yet that is equivalent to RTM(or RTFM) that many of us on CP heard while we were growing up in IT.
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
modified on Monday, July 11, 2011 5:20 AM
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GuyThiebaut wrote: But to answer your question directly I don't think that a google acronym has been invented yet that is equivalent to RTM(or RTFM) that many of us on CP heard while we were growing up in IT.
JFGI - Just ****ing Google It,
or there's the ever young
http://lmgtfy.com/[^]
Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Nice Link.
You can flame me whichever way you want and I wouldn't care a bit.
But if you group me with some idiots, I'll turn into your worst nightmare.
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GuyThiebaut wrote: But to answer your question directly I don't think that a google acronym has been invented yet that is equivalent to RTM(or RTFM) that many of us on CP heard while we were growing up in IT.
RTFM is far older than IT! My dad taught me that as a boy as his father taught him. Both were engineers (though, apparently, my long dead grandfather, the curmudgeonly old bastard, spent time as a lumberjack and prospector in Canada in the thirties - must have had an interesting life).
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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KIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILL!
Now we can move along...
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I have noticed that most people answer with Google and MSDN because they themselves don't know the answer. The people who come up with good answers are people who know the subject matter and are usually good at what they do.
I think the Google answer is bullshit but that is just me...I have used it myself in the past and probably will in the future but it still is a cop out in most cases.
My thoughts.
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Not always true, though it is sometimes.
Sometimes the answer is far too long/involved/whatever to easily answer in a Q&A reply. In that case a link to an article/MSDN page is often the better way.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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Henry Minute wrote: Sometimes the answer is far too long/involved/whatever to easily answer in a
Q&A reply
Agreed! To add to that I've used the methods in the question but have used them in a different way than the poster is asking for.
Rather than work the problem out for them why not point them down the same road that some of us have taken ourselves?
It was broke, so I fixed it.
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"Rather than work the problem out for them why not point them down the same road that some of us have taken ourselves?"
Exactly - much better to help someone be creative than to give them the solution every time(no matter how much they may sulk in a corner as a consequence).
Continuous effort - not strength or intelligence - is the key to unlocking our potential.(Winston Churchill)
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I think it can go both ways. For a question of "how do i turn on line numbers in visual studio" level questions, Google is a valid answer because it is easy to find and simply shows laziness on the part of the poster. As some others have mentioned, very looooong answers are best done with pointing to an article or MSDN etc.. and yes sometimes I think Google is a cop-out by people who are either A. pissed off at a day of answering the above lazy type questions, or B. Don't really know the answer themselves as you said.
Programming is a race between programmers trying to build bigger and better idiot proof programs, and the universe trying to build bigger and better idiots, so far... the universe is winning.
Be careful which toes you step on today, they might be connected to the foot that kicks your butt tomorrow.
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If my only answer to the poster is Google then I will not answer the question...I don't need the Authority points "that bad".
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digital man wrote: So, my question is: if I can find these articles that quickly, why can't the poster?
Just a thought
asked and answered. You just had one, they never have.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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digital man wrote: So, my question is: if I can find these articles that quickly, why can't the
poster?
It's loneliness.
Yes, they could search for the answer themselves, but then who would they talk with? 
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A little over a year ago, my wife gave birth to a healthy baby boy. This weekend, the little guy for the first time took his own independent steps into this world.
I never imagened something so trivial would make me so proud  .
We take too much for granted in our lives.
V.
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I got a good 7 or so months till my daughter starts walking (thank god). Having too much fun playing "peeka boo" and watching trees with her.
No matter what happens outside of the house, what happens " inside" is the best (with mother and child).
Gratz on your youngling man. 
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Groucho Marx
Those are my principles, if you don't like them… I have others.
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Congratulations! 
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V. wrote: We take too much for granted in our lives
You've certainly got that right!
My congratulations to the little fellow! I'd congratulate you, but you haven't really done much but get laid. He's done all the real work, building muscle to support himself, developing coordination to move his center of gravity so that it remains above the primary support structures; that's not easy stuff to do! Good job, young man! 
Will Rogers never met me.
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I could write a nifty reply, but that would go against the KS rule 
V.
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I shall offer some advice.
Put everything you care for/need/want to remain in one piece or dribble free about a foot higher than he can reach.
He can walk, therefore he can grab, run and drop!
I speak from sad experience
The one thing about today's babies is that they do not have Video Recorders with the large flap at the front that is just big enough to insert a toy car!
(Again, a regular occurrence when my son Tom was small.)
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