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How could you get a brand new laptop and not get a User's guide with it?
GFY! 
The environment that nurtures creative programmers kills management and marketing types - and vice versa. - Orson Scott Card
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Joe Simes wrote: How could you get a brand new laptop and not get a User's guide with
it?
GFY!
Oh, I get a manual with it, problem is it's on the HDD and I have to go through the initial setup which according to the pamphlet that came with the laptop can take up to 2.5 hours.
The othere thing is, I like to remove the HDD from all my new laptops and take an image of them using Acronis True Image, and then 99% of the time install them from scratch using plain old vanilla Windows 7 and get only the required drivers from the web and install them, no stupid 3rd party apps force on me.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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After many years I just realized something weird with the way I'm writing and browsing OO code.
I have no problem writing OO code (and non OO code) but whenever I browse the code, I (too frequently...) browse the code by first opening the file and then searching inside instead of simply using the class viewer.
Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you acquired with the first one will dominate?
Am I the only one? Am I weird? Do I need some therapy?
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Stéphane_Roy wrote: Am I weird?
Well, how should I start, ...
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I knew it... I need a therapy ASAP.
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When you're familiar with the code, it's faster to just start in the code. When it's a foreign library, the class browser is the best place to start (or just let intellisense guide you).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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i've never successfully used the class browser for anything.
Crtl-F is sufficient for most things.
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Chris Losinger wrote: Crtl-F is sufficient for most things.
or Ctrl+Shift+F. 
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Stéphane_Roy wrote: Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons
I really hope not. I started with Q-basic hacking up Gorilla and Nibbles.
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Ahhh, those were the days. 
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"Some people are making such thorough preparation for rainy days that they aren't enjoying today's sunshine." - William Feather
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O man i totaly forgot haha thanks for making me diggin my memory for that code haha 
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Completely forgot, I accidentally started programming hacking Gorillaz then programming in Q-Basic when I was trying to find Cubase. Since then my live has been turned to programming and never looked back the other way (more then a week) 
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I don't use the class viewer, it hides too much code. Also, the fact of the matter is that OO code is not organized to make it efficient to find a method. For example, if you have an interface method called GetArea(); The class viewer will not show you the method that uses it. You have to use institutional knowledge to find all instances or a search tool. However, in the file viewer, if your code is organized with respect to finding logically grouped files then you will be more efficient.
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You're not the only one.
However I used to use the Class browser until MS frakked the damn thing up.
What the hell was wrong with the tree view?
Who the hell thinks a split window is more usable?????
And then there was the times it just didn't work.
FRAAAAAAKKKKKK!!!
I agev up on the class view a good while back.
Pete
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Peter Mulholland wrote: I agev
You should be awarded additional points for throwing in a double axel there, Peter.
The British judge is showing 6.9.
Henry Minute
Do not read medical books! You could die of a misprint. - Mark Twain
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
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It's odd. Always used to use the class browser as my primary naviagator in VC++ up to version 6, but since moving to VS.NET I always use the file view. I think everyone does, but not quite sure why...
Regards,
Rob Philpott.
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Stéphane_Roy wrote: Does it mean that the very first language you learn will burn your neurons in
such a way that (whatever the language you're using) the work habits that you
acquired with the first one will dominate?
Certainly not, or else I would have to do everything in hexadecimal
"Dark the dark side is. Very dark..." - Yoda
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"Shut up, Yoda, and just make yourself another toast." - Obi Wan Kenobi
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Didn't know hex was a language. I learned higher level languages first and then learned how to read hex dumps, then octal dumps (Started on IBM 32 bit, then CDC 60 bit.)
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Why - after 11 frakking years of .Net availablity and FIVE iterations of Visual Studio - has Microsoft refused to add the ability to
0) Allows us to load the last loaded web site via the Recent Projects and Solutions menu item
1) Remember the files we had open when last we were in that web site project
It's called "usability".
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Is item #1 only for web site projects?
When I close my solutions and re-open them all the files I had open are still open.
I'm doing WPF now, which is why I asked if this was a web project specific problem.
Maybe you need to start using Firefox or something.
Every time I have a problem the answer I get is to install Firefox.
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Web APPS do show up. Web SITES do not. It's stupid.
This has nothing to do with which browser you have tied to Visual Studio.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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I would suggest sire that VS doth blow chunks.
Every day I don't use it is better. 
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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At the risk of sounding like an apologist: What IDE is better?
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That's the problem. No other IDE exists that is even close to what Visual Studio is, even in its brain-dead and crippled state.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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dip switches banks paired with 7 segment hex displays.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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