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But...but...it was engraved on the inside of the wedding band so I wouldn't have to commit it to memory.
Unfortunately the ring is in the shop being re-rounded, so it's no help at the moment.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: I kissed her with abandon; she took off the band and I kissed her again.
I laughed out loud. Thanks, and congratulations on a beautiful relationship.
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What are you?
Some sort of sick pervert?
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Do you have Visual Studio 2010? If so, which version? If you have Team Server, you might find this[^] useful.
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Yeah, we're using VS2010 - Professional. I've heard good things about that actually, haven't used TFS for a while (we've been using subversion as our internal source control). Price wise, TFS2010 looks really affordable for our team, certainly something we can consider.
Was interested if there were any open source options available for .Net though - in particular using MVC3 \ Entity framework etc. There doesn't *seem* to be, might be a useful little side project for me to work on 
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Why the requirement for .net? I've used pivotal tracker and green hopper and both of them are excellent. Since they are web apps the platform doesn't really matter.
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I'm sure we could be up and running with an alternative, but it's something we'd like interally as part of our development tools suite rather than hosted. We have a few machines running Apache \ Tomcat so could possibly look at one of these alternatives, however most of our web servers are Windows running IIS so a .Net implementation would be nice.
Pivotal tracker used to be free but is on a scaled pricing scheme now, same with Green Hopper.
Will probably look at TFS \ VSTS as an actual tool to use within the team, price and functionality seems more than reasonable for our requirements.
Mainly, we enjoy using open source projects. Sometimes they require a bit of tweaking, but it lets us integrate them with our existing applications & keeps the team up to date with how other developers are tackling design decisions. I was just a bit surprised that there isn't an alternative for .Net, an MVC3 \ EF project for this could be a nice future code project article !
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We use TFS2010 here with the initial agile 2010 theme and I've used the other tools in the past. TFS2010 is clunky and it is really optimized for larger teams. It is built around multiple SQL server databases, analysis services, reporting services and sharepoint. That means it has a ton of configurability, but figuring out where to make a change in the interface and creating custom builds can get a bit hairy.
We are using full sql server, so we had to make sure we set a cap on the memory usage since the web apps and other services are running on the same machine. Our PM primarily uses the web interface and it's pretty slow for him the first time he hits it for the day. Also once you get it setup, there is a best practices analyzer which is part of the the TFS power tools.
In addition you need to create some stored procedures and schedule them if you are concerned about making sure you can restore all the databases to a consistent state.
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Thanks, interesting stuff. We wouldn't want something too bloated - we're a small-ish development team so this could be too much.
I've a spare server at the moment for playing with new stuff, so I might just install the trial TFS2010 and see how it goes.
Cheers
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We use Rally[^] and it does the job fine.
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Dylan Morley wrote: I'll probably write something myself if no options available, but no point
starting if somethings already out there
I thought this would be a great project to work up with my Relationship Oriented Programming series, so I started an effort which you can read here[^]. Interested in continuing with this crazy approach with me?
Marc
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"Where one skis online perhaps? Initially how one proceeds, in Rome, to make a record of one and state how knowledge was accrued?"(15)
Very Difficult today,
I seem to have been too easy on you all this week, so I am being rather fiendish today.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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Wow! 
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Thank you.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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Palaeontologist?
Too much of heaven can bring you underground
Heaven can always turn around
Too much of heaven, our life is all hell bound
Heaven, the kill that makes no sound
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You're just digging around for clues, ain't ya ! 
When I was a coder, we worked on algorithms. Today, we memorize APIs for countless libraries — those libraries have the algorithms - Eric Allman
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Palaeontologist
I actually figured the logist (to make a log of one and state) part seemed fairly real.
e - could be online perhaps
where one skis - Pala?
initially how one proceeds, in Rome (onto) is the part that i have no clue at all about.
Anyway, its only a wild guess.
Too much of heaven can bring you underground
Heaven can always turn around
Too much of heaven, our life is all hell bound
Heaven, the kill that makes no sound
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It was a weak attempt at a joke - Palaeontologist - digging around
When I was a coder, we worked on algorithms. Today, we memorize APIs for countless libraries — those libraries have the algorithms - Eric Allman
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Wayne Gaylard wrote: Palaeontologist - digging around
Apologies - should have seen that.
Too much of heaven can bring you underground
Heaven can always turn around
Too much of heaven, our life is all hell bound
Heaven, the kill that makes no sound
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Apologies totally unnecessary - as I said - weak attempt.
When I was a coder, we worked on algorithms. Today, we memorize APIs for countless libraries — those libraries have the algorithms - Eric Allman
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No, try again.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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No, sorry.
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
Trolls[ ^]
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Where one skis online perhaps? EPISTE
Initially how one proceeds, in Rome, MO (Modus Operandi)
to make a record of LOG
one I
and state CAL
how knowledge was accrued?"(15) EPISTEMOLOGICAL
Thanks to SWMBO
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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