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If you want a dog with pedigree, get a hunting dog. They just don't fulfill the purpose of hunting if they're overly inbred.
And a dog that you want to be able to let loose, needs to want to get home when they've finished hunting. So hunting dogs are generally very good family dogs.
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Living in Sweden, hunting dogs are probably pretty normal, but
a) wouldn't they be expensive, or is that just for the "good" ones?
b) I bet they need a LOT of exercise!
Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Iain Clarke, Warrior Programmer wrote: b) I bet they need a LOT of exercise!
A big mistake people make is thinking that bigger dogs need more exercise.
Working dogs - Collies for example - need hours as they have been bred to keep going all day every day.
Some large hunting dogs need surprisingly little exercise - maybe an hour a day - they just need to run when they're out and keep running.
I've mostly had terriers of various sizes and they all have one trait. They will take as much exercise as they're given, but they do NEED to be exercised three or four times a day, but probably only for 10-15 minutes with one longer walk.
The easiest is a decent Jack Russell - just open the door and he'll go off and elephant everything.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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My uncle had a Jack Russell when I was a kid, it worked as a ratter on a local farm.
Used to savage the bag of the vacuum cleaner if it got the chance.
Apparently when I was much younger it used to jump up and grip onto the hair on the back of my head (long girly 70s haircut).
Kept going until it was 17 / 18 and died a bit at a time.
I do like them as dogs, and if I have to give in and get one I might try to steer things in that direction.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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ChrisElston wrote: Used to savage the bag of the vacuum cleaner if it got the chance.
Apparently when I was much younger it used to jump up and grip onto the hair on the back of my head (long girly 70s haircut).
Ah, he had the 'calm' type. 
My first jack was well known to the local police. He was regularly picked up when a lady dog was ready for action and he paid his respects [hence the Alsation rape]. On one occasion he stole more meat from the butchers than we ate in a week. He also took on anything and everything that moved. A local bulldog tried to get him to leave the garden; the bulldog went to the vets.
Jack Russells are the best elephanting dogs.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Just been looking at the Jack Russell Rescue website.
A long list of Jack / Everything crosses  after all the pure ones.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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Oh God, I must not[^] read[^] that[^] site[^]!
Want one [or four].
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: A big mistake people make is thinking that bigger dogs need more exercise.
Not me!
I've grown up connected to a sheep farm that had collies, and they get very unpleasant if they're not worked.
My parents second dog (they're fourth, but the second I knew) was a black lab, and that's a lazy thing most of the time. Trained to sit at the duck hunter's feet 99% of the time, and a short burst of activity for 1%.
Our previous dog was a mongrel terrier, and that't the gold standard any other dog will be compared to.
The only Jack Russell I've known was a pycho whatnot that ruled its two Rottie housemates, so that's put me off a bit.
Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Iain Clarke, Warrior Programmer wrote: The only Jack Russell I've known was a pycho whatnot that ruled its two Rottie housemates, so that's put me off a bit.
If he's your dog then he's only a psycho-murder-rapist with other people.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Well, I would say that "fancy" popular breeds cost more than good hunting dog breeds. But pedigree is more important than breed. But with the case of hunting dogs it's not the dog show champions that counts, but the hunting champions.
A hunting dog that doesn't get excercise normally just becomes a bad hunter, while for example sheperd dogs like a border collie would go crazy. And a watchdog I wouldn't even think of having as a family dog.
Also remember that all dog breeds, except Papillon AFAIK, are originally working dogs.
The Poodle for example is a water fetching breed, which supposedly explains the classic hairdo. It's supposed to keep its joints warm.
And the Chihuahua is originally a watchdog, not the dangerous kind, but the kind that wakes the Bloodhounds.
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: Wearing slippers suddenly became a viable option and I no longer needed to try and be 'fashionable'.
I think part of the reason I don't feel much different today is that I've been 40 since I was 8! I related much better to teachers back then than my fellow pupils.
Except for a brief period, I've pretty much always work a collared shirt and slacks, rather than t-shirt and jeans.
All I need now is a pipe!
Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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Congrats to all of that.
An extra congratulation that a midlife crisis wasn't in the list, it's one of those things you don't want.
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Movie Quote Of The Day
A: Consider the beautiful land you so vigorously defend. Picture it reduced to ash at my whim! Consider the fate of your women!
B: Clearly you don't know our women! I might as well have marched them up here, judging by what I've seen.
Which movie ?
- Preferable a link.
- no cheating !
V.
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Braveheart?
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
English League Tables - Live
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Easy - 300
Sarchasm : The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.
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Luton Elephant Sunshine Airport outdid its normally ineptitude this morning. The plane landed [badly] and we taxied to gate 14 [pointless piece of information from a pointless airport].
"Luckily" I was first off and avoided the queue for immigration THAT ENDED UP ON THE TARMAC!
Yes that's right, the elephanting sunshines could not even handle the number of passengers and it was so bad they could not even get everyone into the building. FES, it took nearly an hour to get through immigration. A task that took lon ger than the train down to London.
I'd rather gargle monkey píss than spend any time at that place. Sorry Dave, but it sucks harder than Linda.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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it could be worse. It could be Gatwick.
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I haven't done Gatwick for a while, but due to it's layout it was always very easy to game the system at immigration and get through quickly.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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How'd you manage that? Did you bunk over the fence and bypass controls that way?
You should publish a book on how to escape airport queues, something like that one apparently done for the Tube that tells you which carriage and door you need to be near if you want to exit the station first or go through to another connecting line.
I think our personal worst experience was in Joburg in 2009. We arrived in a crush of other landings and many 100s of passengers were trying to get through immigration and the luggage hall. There were only three or four carousels working as the SA authorities were trying to upgrade everything in preparation for the soccer World Cup. From landing to meeting family in the arrival hall took the best part of 2.5 hours. I've never seen airport rage by some passengers as bad as that. One bloke actually jumped on the carousel with the intention of going "back stage" to see what the holdup was. He was pulled off by the police before he snuck through. 
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Totally legal manoeuvring. Walk very fast and if you get held up, wait for a member of staff, they'll push through the queue and you tail-gate.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Tailgating. Brilliant suggestion. It would convey the impression to other passengers you were being escorted. I like it.
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I really must get my hearing checked!
Vilmos is a tail gater, I thought they said tail gunner.
Henry Minute
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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