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Iam I missing something? I thought 8 had the same UI as 7 (or nearly) but added the "ohhh shiney" playschool interface for those who want it.
As for it on the phone, not sure a 7 UI would work on a 4inch screen
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Mazen el Senih wrote: now I cannot recognize which my phone
Bjarne Strousstrup quote ... from Wikipedia ... [^]:
"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone."
Wikipedia comment on this: "On his homepage, Bjarne Stroustrup states that he did say the above sentence, but also adds 'I very much doubt that the sentiment is original.' "
“Every existing thing is born without reason, prolongs itself out of weakness, and dies by chance.” Jean-Paul Sartre, "Nausea"
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FUBAR[^]
Nothing more to say really. 
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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But is can't be that inspired by David... it not covered in tattoos and wearing tight pants, that show of it's exhaust pipe far too well.
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It begs the question, would you have bought one before?
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Probably not, but if the skank tries anything on Volvo [I'm thinking of an XC90] I'll have to do some serious thunking.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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If she starts to endorse walking, breathing or bacon we're all screwed.
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I very nearly bought an xc90 last summer. All very nice, but the lack of adjustable height seat belts was a deal killer. If you're at all un-tall, then you get the strap in your neck.
Considering all the goodness that goes in to the rest of the car, I find it bizarre!
Iain.
I am one of "those foreigners coming over here and stealing our jobs". Yay me!
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She really screwed it up - she even put the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
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Either she has a long term contract with them or this, in spite of the given date, is old news.
Top Gear tested a Strange Rover 'designed' by her 12-18 months ago.
It was the one where James May Drove across the desert to Las Vegas to chauffeur Cher who turned out to be a chap in a frock. You of all people should remember that.
Henry Minute
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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I don't often watch Top Queer; Aunty doesn't get as far as Hungariaorszag.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I have a nightly process whereby all "chaps in frocks" images are purged from my brain.
I'll let you know the process involves an ice pick and a rubber mallet, but I shan't elaborate further.
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CSC to slash 640 jobs.
See Here[^]
Hardly surprising considering the history of failure surrounding it.
The NHS fiasco was one of a long line of IT Failures associated with the British Govt.
(The trouble you get when politicians and non-tech Civil Servants are allowed to put their penneth worth in.)
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
English League Tables - Live
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My understanding is that a large part of the work for the new government contracts they have taken on will be covered by their 23,000 offshore workforce. So there should be no cut in the quality of work delivered.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: So there should be no cut in the quality of work delivered
Still gonna be that bad huh? 
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
English League Tables - Live
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: a large part of the work for the new government contracts they have taken on will be covered by their 23,000 offshore workforce
All CP members are requested to man their stations in QA urgently plzzzzzzzzzz.
Henry Minute
Girl: (staring) "Why do you need an icy cucumber?"
“I want to report a fraud. The government is lying to us all.”
I wouldn't let CG touch my Abacus!
When you're wrestling a gorilla, you don't stop when you're tired, you stop when the gorilla is.
Cogito ergo thumb - Sucking my thumb helps me to think.
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Just another day at the Unseen University 
At least artificial intelligence already is superior to natural stupidity
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If we're UU, bagsies I'm Chair for the Public Misunderstanding of Magic Computing[^]
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I officially nominate you for the role of Rincewind.
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#hem hem#[^]
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Dalek Dave wrote: The trouble you get when politicians and non-tech Civil Servants are allowed to put their penneth worth in
I was on a train to Edinburgh, and was forced to listen to a consultant from Accenture (I didn't recognise her, this was after I left) discuss progress on her way home via mobile. For the whole journey. In the quiet coach. It ran pretty much that the NHS obviously had no clue what it wanted, no way of finding out what it wanted and no direction. She said the whole thing was a disaster, not long after Accenture pulled out of the contract. The consultant was so loud and annoying (seriously, an hour and a half of half a shouted conversation) that as, unfortunately for her, I knew the person she was on the phone to, I reported her for discussing company sensitive information openly and loudly in a public place. They are told not to do this. :evilface:
That said, it's not just the government at fault. I remember the NIRS2 system being in Private Eye during my 6th form days, by which time it was well overdue. Then I read for my BSc (or didn't), trained as a teacher, went on supply for a year, spent three years as a technician, went back to uni for a year, worked for two years, then got a job at Accenture. They were still sorting the problems out from the original release. I asked what had happened. AFAICT The consulting staff were brought in (qualifications required: 2:1s or above, from a good university, in a non IT subject - because IT g33ks KommuniKate Bad ). They were then (at that point) sent to Chicago, to learn Java for 2 weeks. Yes, two whole weeks, as they are "pretty bright" no problem picking it up then  . Then they were put onto a project. As the NIRS2 was a fiasco and they needed to get it working, the only solution was to throw more people at it apparently, so thats where all the newly minted consultants went. The Consultants either Sank or Swam, assuming they could make the leap from their extensive Java experience to the OO version of C that was used. I never saw one pointer operation, not even on things processing millions of transactions. I saw one method, had they abstracted it out into a parameterised method, would have gone from 22-foot long (honestly, I printed it out to see what it looked like) to about 200 lines, without much extra work: if was just a series of if statements with the same basic code repeated for all permutations and combinations of the conditionals.
The database was designed by a consultant who'd worked his way up before the project started. They hadn't agreed on a standard for what should have been the mother of all primary keys, the NI number. Sometimes the NI number was stored in hex, sometimes it was split across two or three columns (sometimes one), sometimes the building number (the last letter of the number) was used, sometimes it wasn't. Pretty much every time you had to join two tables, the NI number had to be run through a conversion function.
What made this all the more horrific was the original NIRS1 team, who had been civil servants (and there were quite a few good devs amongst them) were outsourced to Accenture and weren't allowed to cut new code. They were put into maintenance instead, so that the consultants who elephanted it up never really had to deal with what they had done, and therefore kept doing it. That said, by the time I'd got there Accenture was beginning to work differently and things had much improved for new projects.
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Have a 5 just for wreaking your rewengy on somebody who ignores the whole purpose of the quiet coach.
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I honestly don't have time to read that, but have a five for the writing effort.
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Should you be troubled by a quite coach talker again, I have found that tapping on the sign then saying in a caring voice "illiteracy is hard..." usually does the trick.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Not when you're travelling down from Glasgow it doesn't. About a year back, I was travelling down from a client site and a bunch of drunken Glaswegians were in, playing their music at full volume, talking on their phones. When they were told to quieten down, their reply was that they hadn't bough tickets for the Elephanting Quiet coach, but that's where they were put so they weren't going to Elephanting shut up.
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