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GeneralI think Ubuntu is still not ready for the desktop ( and won't be any soon .... ) PinPopular
Behzad Sedighzadeh19-May-13 4:09
Behzad Sedighzadeh19-May-13 4:09 
why?
Here is the story :
Today for setting up ns-3,i installed Ubuntu(through wubi) on my dev box ( Win 7 ) and spent all day inside it.
Soon after logging, the problems, started to appear.
1 - I needed to install python
2 - I needed to install TCL.
3 - I needed to install g++ ( for compiling ns-3 )
4- JAVA? No problem! In Win7 also you need to install it.
5- Adobe flash? I just installed it but after opening some tabs, Firefox started to freeze and in a rare time in Linux history ( Laugh | :laugh: ) desktop vanished and after some HDD LED work, it logged out and showed me the login dialog!
6 - I needed a notepad++ Linux equivalent. No chance!
7- Process Explorer Equivalent? No chance! ( i found one but it wanted to download 61MB of software !!!! )
8 - Gtalk? Yahoo Messenger? Still no chance! OK. I used Empathy, but it did not authenticated me to my yahoo account! Sigh | :sigh:
9 - Foxit Reader? OK! The only tabbed applications in Linux are web browsers and Terminal window! So, no tabbed pdf viewer you can see there.
10 - I have another monitor attached to my laptop. I needed to assign the dashboard to my own preferred desktop. No Chance! Sigh | :sigh:

And the list goes on ....

You know, i think the whole philosophy behind current Linux development is wrong!
why?
Because it has been prepared from a developer's perspective not an ordinary user who just wants to set up his environment and start to work.
Maybe it works for some basic tasks like web surfing or word/image processing, but behind that, you are facing the terrible fact: you have to setup what ever you want by your hand and the most important is learning some scripting language ( python, bash, TCL, etc.).
Ubuntu has tried to fix this problem with its own 'Ubuntu Software Center' and it is an awesome effort, but there is still plenty of work to be done. The user should not search the web for dependencies or libraries needed for certain application to get work.

After all, i think the whole Linux culture should be changed because people out there, are not developer.
Behzad


modified 21-May-13 1:36am.

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