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How much did you spent on Edge?
I booted up my Windows 10 VM and decided to use Edge for a week...I gave up after 3 days...
It maybe low in memory (it's a huge maybe as Chrome has truly separated processes behind each and every tab, so one fail and others keep going, where fail of one the tabs in Edge will block others until the shared libraries restored from crash...) but it is still has the same rendering and JavaScript engine as IE has and for that a very clumsy tool for development...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I gave up on it because it forces you to use Bing, it has no home button, and it shows "suggested" sites in new tabs, read "paid advertisements."
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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tbh, Chrome & it's failing tabs.. Chrome just freezes my browser & system every x-minutes for a second or two/three.. They can claim what they want, but Chrome is far from perfect, and it's a resource hog.. I stick for Firefox;
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Fair enough, if Spartan is significantly better than Firefox or Chrome (at least for your specific purposes) then yes, why wouldn't you switch to it? But that's a big "if".
I don't really understand why you seem so desperate to abandon Firefox and Chrome. Most power users will already have the FF or Chrome extensions they want and also use their respective session sync services across machines and devices, and won't suddenly switch to Spartan just because it uses less memory and happens to be the default browser with Windows.
If Spartan has a vibrant extension ecosystem, and a session sync service, and an Android/iOS client, and looks nice, and has a decent interface, then I will consider switching to it. But somehow I doubt all that will be the case.
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Nope, no matter how long I use Spartan. I would always be a Google Chrome fan and a loyal user. It is just this resolution problem* that is forcing me to use Windows 10. As far as your doubts are concerned, that is still the same. Edge is after all Internet Explorer, with a different UI only. Nothing has been updated, I have not yet found anything, from a developers perspective, to be new. However, from a user's (reader's) perspective there are a few changes. So, it depends on who you are (Developer or user) in order to switch your user-agent!
After this, my only wish is that in Windows 10, the pixels are not rendered as per screen resolution. It is just a pain, trust me.
*My new laptop has 1920x1080 resolution and thus Google Chrome shows very small fonts. Where as this old laptop of mine has perfect font size and rendering resolution so, I am using Spartan.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Do you remember when IE3.0 became the first fully rendered graphical browser to give full capability to browse completely with only a keyboard? Those were the days.
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You can still browser the internet using only a keyboard. I do.
Sadly enough, it is Google Chrome that I am using right now.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Sure, but IE3 was the first to do it, when Microsoft was actually working hard to get the user base. Mosaic and Netscape both botched up until then and left lots of stuff unnavigable.
This weekend, a friend couldn't find the mouse for his HTPC, so I was just happily doing all of the surfing with the keyboard (which didn't have a context menu key, so shift+F10 a lot). Then I hit the requisite Bonjour(Zconf) install and had to actually plug in his notebook's mouse. Sad day.
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Totally accurate words, but not just Microsoft every company tries their best to get a user base, once they get a few users. They convert them self into some laboratory and keep testing and experimenting on their user base.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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For a proper browser memory use comparison, I'd say we'd need one tab with Gmail and one tab with FaceBook (optional, one tab with Pandora, paused) open for 24 hours. Then compare 'em.
Truth,
James
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Microsoft Edge?
Yer FIRED! 
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You forgot the joke icon.
Decrease the belief in God, and you increase the numbers of those who wish to play at being God by being “society’s supervisors,” who deny the existence of divine standards, but are very serious about imposing their own standards on society.-Neal A. Maxwell
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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So that's pretty much every public service or Government commission since the beginning of computing time then?
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Actually, I'm state government employee and our customers are local and county government entities. The local and county people are already upgrading to Windows 10 and I know this because they're asking us if our software will work with it. We're using Windows 7 and expect to another 3 years.
BTW, I am in the process of upgrading our application environment from Windows Server 2003 to 2012.
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Auric Goldfinger wrote: This is what happens when you write software that is not robustable, scalable, cloudable, deployable, readable, and useable, and above all anti-xp-able.
No, this is what happens when you have already paid millions for software written 14 years ago, when the idea of cloud computing wasn't even around because most people still connected to the Internet with a 14.4K modem.
This is what happens when you've trained thousands of people, not just on the operation of the software, but the maintenance of the equipment.
Besides, the issue isn't whether the software can run on something other than XP. I would imagine it can. The issue is that the military went through a vetting process of XP, and they'll have to go through the same thing with W8 or W10 (and by the time their done, W20 will be out) and I can only imagine the complexity of vetting something like W8/10 from scratch. I certainly wouldn't want an OS that craps out right in the middle of a major military exercise (or battle.)
Marc
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You've got it in one, Marc. A long time ago I worked for a defense contractor who did IV&V (independent verification and validation) for the Air Force. Our job was to validate designs that went into military systems. For example, in one project we built an emulation of the F-16 flight control system using the original F-16 design documents. The purpose was to verify the correctness of the design under a wide variety of flight conditions, some of which would be difficult to recreate in an actual flight test.
The point being, the term 'mission-critical' has a whole new meaning when it comes to military systems. Out in The World if a program crashes it gets restarted and you go on. For the DoD, it means someone dies.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Gary R. Wheeler wrote: 'mission-critical' has a whole new meaning when it comes to military systems Or in space systems, I was gobsmacked the first time I found out they were still using 386 systems. Then I read up on it and the light went on. And they still have system crashes in space, I wonder if the space X one was such a crash?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Marc Clifton wrote: I can only imagine the complexity of vetting something like W8/10 from scratch
That, in itself, is probably more than the $9M they just spent to stay on XP.
Considering the DoD's budget (to the tune of hundreds of billions), the Navy got itself a heck of a deal.
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On a contract for the US Navy, we were told to write training documentation using single-syllable words as the reading comprehension of the Navy employees were on a par with students in the third grade.
You can't get cannon fodder if they all have PhDs!
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I think you misread; that's $9 million per copy of Windows (in the grand tradition of $500 hammers.)
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I have become tired of the tailgating redacted term who appear to believe that 6 feet is a safe distance to keep when travelling at 50+mph. So as well as a front facing camera, I am now installing a rear facing camera into my car.
The rear facing camera comes through on Monday however in the meantime I placed a sticker in the rear window that says "smile in car camera recording". Strangely enough since the sticker has been there everyone is driving a good distance behind me, I am still getting the camera.
It's interesting how just the presence of a sticker suddenly increases the intelligence of people.
I once saw a very interesting interview with a mortuary worker who was asked "what is the one thing a person can do to prolong their life?" and the mortuary worker answered - the one thing they were aware of that would, statistically speaking, extend your life is keeping a good distance from the car/truck in front.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
modified 27-Jun-15 15:04pm.
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Wouldn't you be then donating the sticker to each car in-front of you to increase your life time?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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I don't understand
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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