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Daniel Pfeffer19-Jan-21 4:33
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W Balboos, GHB19-Jan-21 8:47
mveW Balboos, GHB19-Jan-21 8:47 
Death rates vary by country - in fact, the counting method here, in the US, has actually varied by state - especially those who chose to ignore it all as a hoax. They're paying for being stupid even as we speak - or should I say, the citizens of those states are paying . . . you can be pretty sure the "management" discretely took precautions. To them, keeping business' open was (and still is) more important than saving lives. Besides, you get the symptoms AFTER you've paid your restaurant or gym/spa bill.

The figure I quote was from the OP - which can vary. The multiplier is from a CDC statistic on mortality vs. age group, setting the mid-to-late-20's as "1" . The death rate increases as the hospitals fill.

As a devil's advocate point, remember that many go asymptomatic and don't get tested - escaping the count and otherwise not lowering the rates. But that's not the point. US death toll, now, is around 400,000 - > 1 in 1000 . Daily death tolls haven't been a "low" as yours since November. Morgues are overflowing into refrigerated truck containers.

This is not the flu - this is a killer (and, as I alluded to and you described in some detail, a crippler, as well). We live in an age where morons want to believe it's a conspiracy - a hoax - perhaps a plot by the Illuminati. So they won't recognize it and take the vaccine. I have a solution to someone who won't take the vaccine: "who's next in line . . . .". I see no reason to talk someone into accepting something such as the vaccine that is so coveted and yet in short supply.

Perhaps, now that the vaccine is available, victimhood will shift ever more towards the fools and fanatics - and so their relative proportion in the population will decrease. When it's over, perhaps it will end up Darwinian in overall effect. The reality, however, is that there's immense sadness as the victims, to start with, were primarily blameless. The party goers? For them I've fewer tears to shed. It's like a biological version of drunk driving. Endangering themselves and others around them "because they have rights".

The precise number/mortality rate isn't important. It's that a deadly disease was politicized. Worse, I perceive (a risk of being political) that the current administration here lied about the "backup" vaccines they have in store and is reversing a ban on air traffic from Brazil and South Africa (even worse variant than UK variant) - to exacerbate the problem for the administrations successors.

Ravings en masse^
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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