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ubisoft is giving "assessins creed syndicate" for free by 6th of December
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Did that sound right to you? It does to me.
As a native (U.S.) English speaker, I was of course not taught that there is a rule guideline to how we order adjectives -- but ESL students are taught a rule.
As I was lay awake this morning I thought about this. I think the above is in accordance with the rule.
But what if I drop the "large" -- I would describe it as a "fluffy, red sweater" rather than a "red, fluffy sweater".
I know there are many highly fluent non-native English speakers in the room -- what does your experience tell you?
Can both be "correct"? Is there a nuance to the rule which swaps these? If both size and color are specified, do they gravitate together?
(And don't get me started on separating adjectives with COMMAs.)
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Does it have the answer? If so, please post a quote of it.
Nothing I've seen online so far has resolved my curiosity.
I.e. I ain't clicking that.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I ain't clicking that.
Your loss. It's a nice little piece and it's safe (AFAIK BBC doesn't harbour dangerous stuff).
Fluffy read sweater it is 
Quote: The order of adjectives, according to the book's author Mark Forsyth, has to be: opinion-size-age-shape-colour-origin-material-purpose.
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: Mark Forsyth
Then I've already read it. And it does not answer my question.
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Quote: The order of adjectives, according to the book's author Mark Forsyth, has to be: opinion-size-age-shape-colour-origin-material-purpose.
So does "fluffy" count as opinion ("fluffy large red sweater" / "fluffy red sweater") or material ("large red fluffy sweater" / "red fluffy sweater")? 
"Fluffy large red" feels wrong to me. But "fluffy red" feels more righterish than "red fluffy".
Sometimes I think 90% of the English language was invented to torture ESL students! 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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My vote goes to 'fluffy large red sweater' but my vote doesn't count as I'm not a native and, no matter how much I enjoy learning the intricacies of this million-word mastodon, I'll never have a native's feeling (or accent) for it
Richard Deeming wrote: Sometimes I think 90% of the English language was invented to torture ESL students!
As I've said in a previous message, not long ago, English doesn't properly have a grammar: more a collection of use cases and exceptions
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: use cases and exceptions
Mostly exceptions. 
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: a collection of use cases and exceptions
On that, we agree.
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Don't think of them as exceptions. Think of them as corner cases
"A little song, a little dance, a little seltzer down your pants"
Chuckles the clown
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: more a collection of use cases and A LOT OF exceptions
FTFY
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Even if so, why does it seem (to me at least) that they should swap positions in this case? </rhetorical>
I don't see "fluffy" as opinion or material. Where does texture go in the order?
Richard Deeming wrote: "Fluffy large red" feels wrong to me. But "fluffy red" feels more righterish than "red fluffy"
So I guess I'm not alone anyway.
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P.S. Not really as a response to you, but as further thought your response have provoked.
Regarding "green great dragon": If the writer has established "great dragon" as a thing, then I can see "green great dragon" being acceptable.
The castle is guarded by three great dragons. The main drawbridge is guarded by a green great dragon. Upon the keep sits a red great dragon, watching all directions. And deep in the dungeon lurks a blue great dragon.
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Doesn’t that make “great dragon” more of a title than an attribute, like in “grand master”? Just a thought.
Mircea
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Yeah, kinda maybe. But more like [hot dog] and [ugly sweater] act as nouns rather than as a noun with an adjective.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: The castle is guarded by three great dragons. The main drawbridge is guarded by a green great dragon. Upon the keep sits a red great dragon, watching all directions. And deep in the dungeon lurks a blue great dragon.
It just sounds wrong when you say it, even though I was previously unaware of this rule.
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I know. But I can English with the best of 'em.
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Interesting. While reading I started thinking of a counter example and couldn't.
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Tactile versus visual? Objective versus subjective?
Large, fluffy, red ... The label also says Large (L); but makes no reference to fluffy or red; though fluffy might be implied in the material and washing instructions. "Non-white" is implied if told to wash separately with like colors.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
modified 3hrs 10mins ago.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: As I was lay awake this morning
In terms of two people speaking to each other...
The real value is in the word 'trapped'. The rest provides only limited value in the context to the other person. After all for example if it was small versus large would that really change anything?
But if I was the other person I would be more curious as to why you were laying in bed wearing a sweater like that in the first place. And if you were not in fact wearing it then why were you thinking about it in the first place.
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I'm guessing you've never lain awake in the morning. Hmm?
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Whatever order sounds most like a band name is correct.
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Oddly enough, I had Soft, White Underbelly on my mind yesterday. 
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I saw this quote in the comments on an article about "AI" failing an IQ test:
Considering what actual stupidity has brought us to, I'm not at all cheered by the idea that now we’re going to add in artificial stupidity with a lot of money behind it.
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