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I used to play the Blues with my band, along with 60s, 70s,80s, and 90's covers.
I liked items 1 through 20 but disagree with 21. I am living (still) proof of that.
I found the music behind the blues to be repetitive, and rarely listened to the words unless I was the one singing them.
12 bar blues were particularly boring after a while, as only the key and the words would change.
BTW we were semi-pro as we got paid most of the time.
ed
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For sure. In fact there should be a "I got the Facebook blues" song. Mostly satirical, I think.
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This was great stuff. Thanks.
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When the Lord God had created the man, he said to himself: Yes, it fits.
When he then created the woman, he just said: Well, she just has to put on make-up.

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"In testa che avete, Signor di Ceprano?"
-- Rigoletto
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When the man checked out the women, he said to himself: Yes, it fits.
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You forgot the third line, where the woman says, "ya, it'll fit," and after looking again at the man, then asks, "but, do you have anything bigger?"
The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.
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It's not an MS problem as much as you would like to think so.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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For anyone offering X as a service products it absolutely is. Giving contractors/freelancers/etc access to your systems is a common enough thing to do; and Company X is far from the only business with and owner either too busy to make the time to remove access for people who should no longer have it or too clueless to understand why he should take a minute to do so.
While I'm neither stupid or unethical enough to take advantage of the access I theoretically have*; if my pc/MS account ever get hacked whoever pwns me is unlikely to have similar scruples about either ransomwaring X's business or spinning up up $100k/day worth of VMs to mine crypto. Beyond that the steady stream of "you need to X" emails I get represent a low level information disclosure vulnerability into X's current setup.
* Theoretical because I have a vague recollection of needing a different password for X's Azure; if so it (and everything else related to X) has been long since deleted from my saved passwords list. On the gripping hand, I've no idea how hard doing a PW reset would be.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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When a couple split up, the one remaining in the house demands teh key back, or changes the locks to be sure the ex can't get back in.
Failure to get a key back isn't the lock manufacturer's fault - it's "your ex" that has made a mistake and caused a problem.
I'd disagree - it's not MS's problem it's a Company X management problem. Just like when a contractor's contract ends or an employee leaves you revoke their access permissions to the building recover all keys they were issued, they should revoke all permissions to all systems.
MS is right - they can't legitimately revoke permissions as you might be requesting it as a malicious act. Even if they could do it, they don't know that "Joe" has left and "Dan" isn't still an employee you want to make trouble for!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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The account belongs to company X, not MS. It would actually be a crime, I'm sure, if MS helped you get removed from another company's system, without prior written agreement with said company X.
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The actual crime is that by not providing any way for me to stop receiving emails about X's azure, MS is violating the CAN SPAM act.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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You could write a cease and desist letter threatening further legal action, directed toward company X. That would solve your problem, but it would require some effort on your part.
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Slacker007 wrote: You could write a cease and desist letter threatening further legal action, directed toward company X. That would solve your problem, but it would require some effort on your part.
I had a problem with the company that has programmed the web to access my bank.
I wrote them an email saying about a problem and giving them a couple of ideas to resolve it. The ignored me.
I resent the email some days later, they answered me some weeks later with some "off the book" answers that didn't even correlate to my message.
I sent them more or less the same content a third time and told them that it is not about comfort but about security and that they are not following the european privacy act and they might get accountable for any data leak... the answered me the same day (I saw it next day though) that the changes were already being implemented and that it would go live by the next update...
The issue is still active, and I am really thinking on giving a notice to a customer defense organization (I am not going to start something myself alone against them). If they don't learn being nice...
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Dan Neely wrote: They never removed my access to their Azure for some reason though despite multiple emails between me and my boss and X.
Inform them (via email, with your boss CC:ed) that you've reset your password for that account, and that you're going to snail-mail them the new password on a piece of paper, sent via certified mail, and that you won't be keeping any copy of that document once it's been sent.
Point is, you want to get yourself in a situation where, from that point forward, anything that happens from access through that account is no longer your problem because you cannot access it yourself even if you wanted to.
I suppose the problem is proving you won't keep a copy of the new password (beyond your own claim). But I think you get the idea I'm suggesting.
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That plan presupposes that:
1) I still remember how to get from the base me@companyName.tld MS account tied to my MSDN/Outlook/Office subscriptions to where ever it's linked to the company X azure account.
2) That I'm willing to do anything that would involve touching the Company X Azure at all.
The latter is why I've spent several years emailing boss person @ company X and more recently MS; instead of trying to find out if they gave me enough admin rights to their azure to disconnect myself. I want nothing to do with their systems now.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Dan Neely wrote: I want nothing to do with their systems now
That's why I was suggesting this. If you can't access the system, you can't be blamed for anything bad that might happen to it.
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I'd need to access their system to change my password, and in terms of being able prove I can't login nothing would change. Currently it's only my word that I don't remember the additional password to go from my MS account to their azure; after going in and doing a reset to a new password it'd only be my word that I didn't record whatever I changed it to.
If I could go in and remove myself from their system entirely that would be something else; but the message from Microsoft implies that I can't do it.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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If they changed the password themselves they wouldn't be able to place anything nefarious that happened subsequently on you. IMO, that's the best you can hope for - let them take ownership of the account so you can wash your hands of it. That's all I'm saying. I'd hate to be in that situation.
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MS says they can't do anything, Company X can't be bothered to do anything.
Edit: And because the company X azure is tied to my employer MS account my employer can't do anything until such time as I stop working for them.
I'll admit a degree of curiosity if when that happens I'll disappear from X's azure entirely, or if MS will keep trying to send emails to an account that was deleted from their systems...
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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Dan Neely wrote: I'll admit a degree of curiosity if when that happens I'll disappear from X's azure entirely, or if MS will keep trying to send emails to an account that was deleted from their systems...
Depends on a lot of things.
If the account continues to exist in Azure AD but is marked as inactive, the system should start generating errors whenever someone tries to send an email to the associated mailbox. When happens next is anybody's guess. 
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No Azure AD. We were going to but then some bean counter realized it'd cost money and vetoed it.
Just whatever is needed for office/msdn/etc access.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
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I had the same problem and it blocked me from using my from using teams. I was able to contact the old company and they did remove me.
But, I think it is Microsoft responsibility to manage this. Microsoft owns azure and they charge a pretty penny to 'use' it. The accounts are for Microsoft security and ability to bill you.
That being said, there needs to be a way I can remove my account from being tied to something I don't want/need/can't use or have.
This is the state of the cloud. Always using someone else' property. Cheaper up front probably. I'd guess not in the long term.
Jack of all trades, master of none, though often times better than master of one.
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