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GeneralTo autoupdate or not to autoupdate Pin
honey the codewitch24-Jun-22 5:23
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I was on reddit just now advising someone on an ESP32 question regarding its ability to do over the air updates to its firmware.

Long story short, he's making things for family and wants to be able to patch and deploy when there are fixes.

I told him for his use case it's a mug's game, because it won't be completely hands off/zero touch, and it requires infrastructure, such as something to serve the new firmware. At the end of the day, your user/family member will still need help, at which point reprogramming it manually via USB is just as easy.

But I've always been more or less against these auto-rollout things anyway. I like it in theory, but I quickly learned that in practice it's anywhere from clunky (Java updates) to evil (Windows or Ubuntu updates) in terms of what they do, and they aren't hands off. At the end of the day, the user is going to be interrupted and expected or worse, required to intervene when things inevitably go south.

At its very worst it feels like an excuse to release without thorough QA.

Am I the only one who feels this way?
To err is human. Fortune favors the monsters.

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