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thatraja wrote:
8 year old Laptop
Have you checked that the hardware (CPU, TPM level) is sufficient to run Windows 11? Lots of 8 year old machines (including mine, with a CPU that was just released when I bought it) can not run Win 11.

On the other hand: 'End of support' does not make the machine unusable, just that the OS code itself will not be updated to protect against future security attacks. ('Support' could also add functional extensions - but there is not much of that nine years after its release!) Virus/malware protection software is still updated.

We are talking about new threats. How many attackers make new attack software aimed at Win95 these days? Win98? Win XP? Win 7? ... For Win 7, there might be, although I doubt it. I honestly doubt it for 8.1 as well. For Win 10, I would not be surprised by new attacks this year or next year. The more MS succeeds in moving users over to Win 11, the less it pays back for attackers to target Win 10.

I continue running Win 10 without very much worries. I am well behaved on the Internet: I do not download pirated software. I do not visit xxx sites. I do not respond to the 6-10 daily 'special offers' in my inbox (the last week, there has been four every day for McAfee virus protection!) Last time I saw a virus - that was not stopped at the door - on my machines was a floppy boot sector virus (and it was on a 5.25" floppy).

If you go for Win 10, note that mainstream support has already ended. If you want support until 2025, you have to buy the Enterprise version. (Can you still buy it?) New laptops are not that expensive, so maybe the best solution for you would be to buy a new laptop, and continue using the old one for non-internet tasks.
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