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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Damn second starter, I thought it would be better to try for a 3 try solution and instead it pushed me to 5.
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"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
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I'm curious how many people use NuGet versus write your own.
I've had my own framework for 20+ years that contains a lot of things in it like Logging, Security, Event Aggregators, Service Locator, IoC Container, VM Locator, etc. I wrote these a long time ago and they're tested and in production.
But a lot of these types of packages that you get off of NuGet seem to be bloated with 'features' that I don't care for or need. For example, I remember when the GalaSoft WPF Light Toolkit was truly 'light' and was the Go To package for working in WPF. Now it seems to be full of stuff I'd never use.
You can eventually end up with dozens of 3rd party assemblies in your app that could end up with the 'feature bloat' and end up compiling in packages just to use 10% of it.
Yet, there's value in using NuGet. If you get your packages from well known authors, like MS for example, you can be reasonably sure the package is tested in secure. You get consistency and only have to learn it once,
Sometimes someone refers me to a package from some developer, and I think "What's in this? Is it secure? What benefit do I get from adding another assembly versus use code I already have?
What's your thoughts?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
modified 5-Dec-22 15:51pm.
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In most cases I will roll my own.
I have never gone near NuGet.
I rarely download and use code from CP or other places.
One time I downloaded some code and used it pretty much as it was with some re-formatting -- it's really just a wrapper around a .net class. With a note about who wrote it, etc.
Two other times I downloaded some code as examples of how to interact with an API, but eventually I rolled my own.
P.S. Downloading a compiled DLL or similar is not the same as downloading code.
When Microsoft provides some add-on as download/install compiled code, that might be OK.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: I have never gone near NuGet.
Do you only write code for mainframes and Commodore 64s? 
Honestly, I don't know how you could create much code even over a lifetime as a software developer doing this? I mean there really isn't enough time to create Complete Products without using others' libraries, I don't think.
I am a minimalist though too & things like npm really pain me since I started out "back in the day" writing Win3.1 / Win95 Windows SDK programs.
And, none of this is meant as a knock, I'm just saying I don't know how a dev could create Complete Solutions without using OPC (other people's code).
Came Back for EDIT
Oh, I'm guessing that you are actually an embedded software dev, right? 
Again, just curious.
Edit 2
I took a look at some of your articles. Very interesting stuff & I see that you're doing C# work.
I was thinking you meant that even C# libraries weren't something you were using so I was confused.
But now I see that you're saying you use the BCL (base class libraries) the stuff "included" in the box but not the other stuff from other authors out on nuget. Makes sense now.
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raddevus wrote: I mean there really isn't enough time to create Complete Products without using others' libraries
If you're staring from scratch, I would agree. But like I said, I have my own framework with dozens of classes that handle almost all the generic/repeatable code. So for me, creating a new app is mostly app-specific stuff.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Kevin Marois wrote: I have my own framework with dozens of classes that handle almost all the generic/repeatable code. So for me, creating a new app is mostly app-specific stuff.
That's very cool.
What stack do you use...for example...
OS: Windows
IDE: Visual Studio Code
Language: C#
Platform: Windows Forms
OS: macOS
IDE: XCode
Language: Swift
Platform: iPhone apps
OS: Linux
IDE: AndroidStudio
Language: Kotlin
Platform: Android apps
OS: Linux
IDE: Visual Studio Code
Language: JavaScript, HTML, CSS
Front-End Lib: React
Back-End: C# ASP.NET Core WebAPI
Platform: PWA (Progressive Web Apps)
Just curious.
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Primarily
OS: Windows
IDE: Visual Studio Code
Language: C#
Platform: WPF
Secondary
I'm learning .Net MAUI, so I've started a framework for that also
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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raddevus wrote: Do you only write code for mainframes and Commodore 64s?
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Because if I try to place a NuGet package in anything that goes onto a vehicle I get fired, if someone approves it in the codebase he gets fired too and so on.
Also, the Log4J clownshow apparently didn't teach anything.
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Mostly, I roll my own.
But ... Nuget packages I do use include the HTML Agility pack and Newtonsoft.Json - brilliant stuff that saves weeks of work. There are others, but I don't have VS on my Surface ATM so I can't easily check what they are.
It's like anything else: there are good packs and bad packs, good games and bad games, good libraries and bad libraries, good YouTube videos and absolutely terrible. All you can do is try to pick out the diamonds from a sea of dross. 
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OriginalGriff wrote: HTML Agility pack
I tried using that for something once. Once. It didn't solve any problems I had. I didn't get it from NuGet.
If I recall correctly, it was because I was (am?) receiving some very broken HTML which I couldn't read as XML. I think I wrote my own repair tool to convert broken the HTML to well-formed XHTML. I may have posted a question about it at the time.
OriginalGriff wrote: Newtonsoft.Json
I've seen it mentioned, but I'm waiting for Microsoft's version, which will also likely not solve any problems I have.
Basically, for JSON, all I want is something to convert JSON to XML on-the-fly, I absolutely positively do not want it to create an ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) -ton of "objects" which I have no use for.
In both cases, I can then send the XML to SQL Server for further processing.
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The vast majority of my work stuff is self-rolled. The exceptions are things too complicated to implement myself and are unequivocally free for use in a commercial setting. This is mostly so I don't have to deal with the corporate legal folks.
Software Zen: delete this;
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