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honey the codewitch wrote: Now I'm not sure if I want to gut this expensive new machine myself or make Geeksquad do it.
If you just upgrade NVMes or memory or cleaning the fans you can do it yourself. But changing the entire cooling system - I personally would opt for some help.
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In this case it means specifically replacing all the thermal pads, which work kind of like heat sinks/spreaders.
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If a professional does it they are liable for mishaps.
If you do it you're responsible.
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That was my thinking as well.
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Mike Hankey wrote: If a professional does it they are liable for mishaps
That may also void any manufacturer warranty if the work done is obvious.
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Might be anyone doing repair would void warranty, but at least if a pro does it they will back it.
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Mike Hankey wrote: if a pro does it they will back it.
That's true, but I was thinking if anything else goes south you might be stuck with a hefty repair bill.
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No if they are professionals, you go in negotiate a price and that's it.
It's a brand new unit nothing else should go wrong, unless they cause it.
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Mike Hankey wrote: It's a brand new unit nothing else should go wrong
'Should' being the operative word, sometimes things happen.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
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honey the codewitch wrote: Now I'm not sure if I want to gut this expensive new machine myself or make Geeksquad do it.
I vote Geeksquad.
Not that I trust them, but if they screw it up, it'll be on them. That laptop couldn't have been cheap...
Personally, I'm done opening up laptops, when there's no panels on the back (as is the case with all modern laptops). Keyboards never feel the same afterwards, there's tons of flimsy little plastic clips that are way too easy to break, etc. Let someone else suffer through that.
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I'm thinking that too, the more I stew on it.
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Friends don't let friends do GeekSquad ...
The employees are not all clueless, but IME far too many are. Good luck.
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It's pretty much my only option in the region, short of driving 60 miles to a lenovo authorized laptop clinic.
I figure how hard can it be to replace a drive? Any idiot can do it, I just don't want to be holding the bag if something goes wrong. That's why I want someone else to do it.
However, it has since occurred to me that I could just purchase a 2 year plan with accidental damage coverage and onsite service for $108 USD - a paltry sum for that sort of peace of mind. So now I'll just replace the drive myself. 
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That makes perfect sense.
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Better idea is to send it back to Lenovo and get your money back. Then go buy a Dell or Surface Laptop.
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Nah. Dell's don't rate very well in this tier, and surface laptops are glorified tablets. I don't want something that will make me miss my desktop while I'm out.
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Had both. Two Dells and three Surfaces (one personal and two company issued). Dells are solid, well build machines. MS Surface is a complete poop. Unusable, goofy, fragile and expensive marketing driven nonsense.
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My staff loves the Surface equipment.
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I like my Surface.
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We've had several Surface devices in our family - used for college and homework.
Family loved them.
My 1st generation Surface Book is still going strong - was a Christmas present in 2016 (mine is the updated one with Nvidia GPU built into the keyboard).
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I looked up the specs on the CPU & GPU:
Intel Core i9 13900HX - Max Turbo Power: 157W
RTX 4090 Laptop GPU - Board Power: (up to) 150W
That's a lot of heat to dissipate! 
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Indeed. These modern laptops however, have great cooling setups. I think the thermal pads on this could be improved though, as is often the case.
I've been thinking due to their better power per watt performance, and generally lower power consumption, an AMD may have been a better choice for a laptop CPU, but I'm still happy with this, and my primary heat issues are from the GPU, not the CPU, which seems to bench fantastically in performance mode.
The GPU is running hot, I can tell, because it's benching lower than other 4090 mobile GPUs - lower than average for that model.
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As far as I'm aware of, the whole RTX 4xxx line has (had?) thermal issues--or at least it did upon initial release...even in desktops with plenty of room for air to flow.
I can't say I'm terribly surprised hearing about this with such a beast sitting in a laptop.
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The 4090m uses far less watts than the desktop 4090 despite having the same basic architecture.
It benches right between a 3090 and 3090 TI desktop at about half the wattage.
And yeah, these cards can have thermal issues. My 4080 desktop has been cool as a cucumber - most I've ever hit it was at 67C when I forgot to turn my chassis fans up. Much cooler than my 2080TI.
The issue I've heard with the 4080/4090s is their RAM runs hot, and could use some thermal pads, plus some bad pads/adhesion from the factory on the core components.
I'm hoping to just shore up the GPU in this chassis with some additional thermal management.
There's smoke in my iris
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So I'm ready now (What you ready for?)
I'm ready for life in this city
And my wings have grown almost enough to lift me
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I would recommend taking a look at the Windows advanced power settings for Processor power management.
I throttled mine to avoid the fans blazing when playing games 
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