|Just FYI, it was me that gave you the upvote. Even though we agree on some points and disagree on others. It's for having a rational conversation on the Internet. Anywho...
Preach brother. Where I stand with regards to any of this, it's one thing for someone to believe something. It's another for them to attempt by legal/social to force others to go along with it. Coercion is not progress. But that's a whooooooole different can of worms I'm not sure CP is ready for me to yap about in the lounge.
Sander Rossel wrote:Saying men can get pregnant or have their periods is just ridiculous.
Agreed. I cried watching Titanic. If someone calls me girly for that it's whatever bro. Adults really should be ok with themselves. This doesn't actually make me a woman though. But, the oversensitive crowd can't be told something they don't want to hear these days. So, you're not supposed to say crap like that online.
Sander Rossel wrote:If someone calls me a she (and it happened before, used to have long hair) I can laugh about it.
That right there is the biggest problem I have with the entire movement. To suggest more is to suggest dominance or a combative spirit. I'm inherently a Freudian in my beliefs with human nature. He postulated that women subconsciously have "p envy". This whole future is female, to the tune of men and masculinity is bad, is only proving him correct. If it were truly about equality, there would be no element of trying to feel domineering (which is a masculine trait btw).
Sander Rossel wrote:A boss will probably always be a he, even when we get more female than male bosses.
I dunno man.... "it" sounds right to me.
Sander Rossel wrote:Not to be woke or indulge those people, but just to be clear: I don't know your boss or their gender.
Negative. I mean... all humans have insecurities. But, not about this. Saying that's the only possible reason I don't subscribe to the same idea... I'm sure you know that's shortsighted. And, I also accept the fact that most people will do whatever they learned while young. We adults pretend to change but we don't. Maybe the little stuff but not core values. But that's human nature.
Sander Rossel wrote:Sounds like you're really insecure about something
Anyway, I could give you the long explanation, but this post would be a book. The short version is essentially, both men and women can display masculine and feminine traits. I think we can agree on that. However, most men want to feel masculine, and most women want to feel feminine. This is not from an official survey I did, but I've been around the dating block more than any nerd I've ever met. And thus, I've spoken to a lot more women than most nerds.
To keep it super short-ish, men have become more feminized in the modern world. Most people in the modern world are also not in touch with their instincts. A lot of men don't know what it feels like to be manly. A lot of women don't know what it's like to feel feminine. All this logic and thinking goes out the window then they're finally introduced to it. A masculine man will always be more masculine than a masculine woman. Saying this makes me sound misogynistic to folks who lack critical thinking - which I certainly am not. The problem is these people subconsciously view feminine as inferior. I don't. It's a different type of power, but a power, nonetheless. So, to say when a woman can be genuinely more feminine than a guy ever could be. It's not an insult to women. We need to feminine energy to survive just as much as we need masculine energy to survive.
To the point though, when a man takes the masculine role and the woman the feminine. Which is to say the leadership or more domineering role. People who suck at relationships mistake this to be mean being a micromanaging control freak. Not at all. It's two different types of energies. If I had to sum it up though, domineering means when you speak people listen and things get done. It's not about being over controlling. However, in the simplest terms, masculine is inherently confrontational and feminine is inherently agreeable. Dudes throughout time want to conquer. The last name change is a part of that.
And I'm sure that's where the fundamental disagreement is. Some women may not want to be "conquered" but a lot do. They want to feel claimed and protected and know their man will raise hell to keep his woman safe and snuggly because that's his woman. Women love that. It's not the same as being over controlling.
And, I can promise you that most cranial coders that never leave a computer will never understand this (not you, I'm generalizing).
This why I like you man. We can make jokes.
Sander Rossel wrote:As a redneck, you could marry your cousin and she wouldn't even have to change her last name
Fair enough. But unga bunga. Me caveman.
Sander Rossel wrote:I don't want to change my own name so I don't expect anyone else to want it either.
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