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trønderen8-Jun-23 9:29
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trønderen8-Jun-23 9:53
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Why do we buy Chinese at all? Because it is cheap. Around here (i.e. Norway), that is the one primary reason for buying Chinese. It could have been made at a comparable price here, and then the quality would be comparable, too.

But then: When I was a boy, i.e. in the 1960s, we were really mocking Japanese products very much the same way as we mock Chinese products today. They were selling millions by millions of cheap transistor radios (we still had mostly tube designs in those days), cameras in a plastic housing, cars that were referred to as 'rice cookers'. We mocked and ridiculed the Japs for at least ten years after Nikon and Canon (and a few more) had taken over the high end camera marked, after the rice cookers had proved to be the most reliable cars around, and high class stereo systems affordable by everyone were 95% Japanese.

The Chinese are most definitely making high quality products. They don't need us to buy them - the national market is five times the size of the US of A, and there is a huge Asian market outside China. We may be making a fatal mistake by telling China "Send us the very cheapest products you are able to produce!" and believing that what we then receive is representative for what Chinese industry is capable of producing.

I guess comparing Chinese to Western industry today is very much like comparing Japanese industry to Western industry in the late 1960s and early 1970s. In a few sectors, we have already realized that China has taken over the lead, and we might see more of that as long as we keep on saying "But it is cheaper buying from China than to keep our own industry alive".
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