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Yes Google is bringing out a new bunch of OS and development tools. Want to have a try?
"Silence will create respect and dignity; justice and fair play will bring more friends;
benevolence and charity will enhance prestige and position; courtesy will draw benevolence;
service of mankind will secure leadership and good words will overcome powerful enemies"
Ali (Peace be upon him)
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Only if I have a tool like Adblock[^] for it. I don't surf the web without it anymore. Speeds up web pages and gets rid of all the blinking/moving annoying advertisements!!!
Hogan
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Really, I look forward to google releasing an OS - it will be great to work on (simple and straight to the point - but very cool and so interesting to work with). - You can't be lost in such OS.
you can always do it, at your expense - though
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Google OS==Ad everywhere?
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Hey Hey u all arguing over operating systems(OS).Let me tell you neither linux nor windows will survive in future cause SOS(smart operating system) is coming in the market.I am working on that.

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Does it support ClstCtrl?
regards,
Paul Watson
Ireland & South Africa
Fernando A. Gomez F. wrote: At least he achieved immortality for a few years.
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Paul Watson wrote: Does it support CListCtrl?
No, only CSmartListCtrl 
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Then SOS must DIE for not supporting CListCtrl!
"Listen, and listen well. I really like the band N-Sync. My favorite member is Harpo. I think there's a Harpo. If not there should be. I will write their next hit, maybe 'A boom-boom chiky chiky boom-boom a boom-boom chiky chaka chaka cho cho.' By the way, you must beware of Betty's iron claw. They are sharp, and they hurt. And beware his song about big butts, he beats people up while he plays it! " - Master Tang (from Kung Pow: Enter the Fist)
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I'm a newbie Java developer so I haven't been weened off of Windows yet. Maybe soon I'll start to move away from the Microsoft world. Until then...
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No one HAS to do anything. You can develop for any platform you want. It is not bad you develop for Windows, so don't be ashamed of that! Windows, Linux, Mac are all serious platforms and good to develop for. Just make your choice.
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You should know most Java App run on Windows System
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Yeah. I know that I don't HAVE to develop for Windows. I am aware that Java apps run great on Windows boxes. I guess its just the irony of the thing. I'm developing w/ an open source language on a strictly non open source platform. Microsoft is like the antithesis of the open source movement. Don't get me wrong, I'm comfortable in my little Windows cradle (Not that there's anything wrong w/ developing w/ or for Windows for anyone else). I do, however, aspire to learn more about Linux and begin developing on that platform, even to transition to other OSes (like maybe Solaris), to be a bigger part of the open-source community, to show the world that not everything has to have Microsoft's name on it to be good or worthwhile. Viva La Resistance!!!
....Sorry got carried away. 
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In strictly say Java is not an open source lanaguage. Maybe you can do "great" open source software in any platform. But you should know many user only use Microsoft Windows (It's really a great platform in despite of it's not in open source). Many open source advocate ignore user really requirerments (uses Windows) just because they "Hate" Microsoft,and they never seriously study Windows platform and dotNet framework then say Microsoft is evil.
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I would not call it "irony". For a programmer/user, an OS just represents another layer. If it works, it is fine. If it does not work, it can be repaired or it will die (because the other OSes would be better from both user's and programmer's point of view).
Think about a processor. People usually do not complain that processors are not "open source". It is somehow more natural that we are not thinking about hardware as about "not to be given for free". (Frankly, for most users both "open source" and "free" software just means "can be used for free" -- they do not care to make a difference.)
Moreover, hardware manufacturers do support open source development because it leads to more interest to their hardware. This way, the software "for free" is paid, at least partly, by you when you buy your hadware.
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Petr Prikryl, Skil s.r.o.
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I understand. The irony for me, I guess, is that I'm developing in an open source language on an OS whose company's business strategy is polar opposites of the open source movement. Some things in open source you do have to pay for but you're also given the source code for evaluation or even modification. Also, the provision of the source code fuels community development for plug-ins or mods to the software that maybe the original developers hadn't thought of, thus improving the software to meet the needs of more people in a much quicker manner. I believe Microsoft would cringe at the thought of any of their software being modified or improved and them not getting any money for it!
Use Java!!!
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I like this kind of reasoning Firstly, I work in a software company and I make money by writing software. My view is that there will always be the need for polished applications that are customized for the specific customer. This way I am not affraid to loose the job. I also use free code sometimes. Sometimes, I do help for free to others.
This is like in a human life. You have family, relatives, neighbours, friends. You do more for them than for the others. Simply put, you distribute your energy unevenly -- you give more to the ones that are closer to you (or in concrete or in abstract sense). The same way, you get the energy from those around. Your customers usually "do not love you". They are willing to pay only if you give them something that bring them more. In other words, there must be some ballance. This is, in my opinion, the source of heated debates whether Open Source or Free is better, whether GPL or BSD or whatever licensing is better. It depends on the human social feeling also.
One extreme is "pay for everything that you get and they will pay you for everything that you will give". The other extreme is "you have everything for free but you also have to work for free". Apparently, both extremes are unrealistic. In my opinion, both extremes are also unsocial even though the "free" alternative seems very kind. The problem is that the software can be copied for everyone who needs it but the interface to the more physical world is also important. Keeping ballance is important.
The strange manifestations of the extremes can be observed on big companies that behave more like machines, less like people. Say Microsoft and Google. You may have heard about exciting conditions for young programmers at Google. Still, I believe that it is an experiment that will not work in long term. While I agree that it is nice to have good working condition, the Google approach is the extreme that also decreases effectivenes of work. (Do not tell me that there are not also "programmers that do not spend too much time by playing games...")
Our planet is too small. Working uneconomically in the sense of energy (physics) also means that more people die from hunger.
Petr Prikryl
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It's amusing to see people constantly posting questions in relation to the use of operating systems for gaming, development, and or general use.
However, the problem I'm pointing out is not in the question - it's in the audience (Yes, we are a problem :P). If you were to poll TCP's users for what their primary operating system is, I can guarantee that well over 75% would say "Windows."
If only there were a OS-neutral development site to ask this same question on...
"Silently laughing at silly people is much more satisfying in the long run than rolling around with them in a dusty street, trying to knock out all their teeth. If nothing else, it's better on the clothes." - Belgarath (David Eddings)
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I see you have a point. However, such questions always have a meaning. No matter what site is posting the question, getting the answers will show interesting things. The fact that 15% os CP members develop in Linux and another 4-5% in Mac shows that Codeproject members are not as biased as someone may think...
A site NOT posting such questions would be troubling me. Not the ones that do.
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Remember, this is a "multiple answers acceptable" poll. Your statement carries the overtone that the 15% of linux developers are only Linux developers. Given that 97% of the voters answered Windows, that leaves only 3% that do not develop on windows. The other 12% of linux developers (such as myself) do both.
Judy
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Why not take the poll in context, i.e., "what O/S do CodeProject voting users use?"
This is our own little world - and knowing who's in it isn't such a bad idea.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"How do you find out if you're unwanted if everyone you try to ask tells you to go away?" - Balboos HaGadol
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The beauty of writing analysis code is that you are only constrained by the machines you have access to. The ugly side is that most of the code ends up being very portable Fortran 95 with a mixture of F77 in just to make me cringe at reusing ancient code. Right now I'm simultaneously developing a tool that runs on OSX, Windows and with little effort will run on Linux.
Yeah I know its ugly and uses namelist inputs, but at least I get to pick where it runs and where I develop it.
Someday I'm going to get back to writing in a language that uses pretty code and has a lovely interface, but until then...
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firegryphon wrote: that runs on OSX, Windows and with little effort will run on Linux
How about OpenVMS? The latest OPenVMS hobbyist license pack includes FORTRAN.
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: How about OpenVMS? The latest OPenVMS hobbyist license pack includes FORTRAN.
Oh I'm sure I *COULD* compile it for that, provided it is a F95 compliant compiler. The key though is that since I'm using the Intel Fortran compiler, I'm pretty much guaranteed of any code working on all three of the original platforms listed, but not necessarily guaranteed of it working for other compilers. I commonly read the F95 standard just to make sure what I'm doing is fully compliant, but I find that when I go between compilers that someone else read that same statement and thought it meant something different so that the new compiler doesn't compile everything correctly. I've found that going between gfortran and Compaq/Digital or Intel requires a not insignificant amount of work when dealing with more sophisticated programs.
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